100nl - TPTK

SpecT · #1 05-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $113.15
BB: $116.85
UTG: $80.88
MP: $91.75
CO: $339.88
Hero (BTN): $224.00

Reads: villain is 20/18/8 over 500 hands. Ive been playing pretty snug, not really makin any big moves. just kinda seems like a weird, biggish shove

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, SB calls $4.50, BB folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10.50, SB calls $10.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($37) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24.50, SB raises all-in to $97.65, Hero calls $73.15

carnivalhobo · #2 05-15-2007, 01:24 AM

only problem is there is only one draw possible, i think you see 555 and 8x a fair amount.

Mossberg · #3 05-15-2007, 01:24 AM

you can't really expect him to show up with much worse. He's not doing this as a bluff, or for value with a worse king. His line looks very strong - you don't have to call here.

2weak · #4 05-15-2007, 01:44 AM

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only problem is there is only one draw possible, i think you see 555 and 8x a fair amount.

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I dont think he has 55 here ...why should he already shove the turn, especially when there is a scarecard for hero (TP)coming.
I think he has an 8 very often in this spot. Fold.

SpecT · #5 05-15-2007, 01:46 AM

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only problem is there is only one draw possible, i think you see 555 and 8x a fair amount.

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I dont think he has 55 here ...why should he already shove the turn, especially when there is a scarecard for hero (TP)coming.
I think he has an 8 very often in this spot. Fold.

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yeh sure its easy enough to say he has an 8. but the only hands i can think of that he may possibly have with an 8 in them is 78s/89s/88, and remember he's 21/19, so i dont think sc are in his range for calling raises in the blinds

carnivalhobo · #6 05-15-2007, 01:48 AM

an 8 doesnt really make too much sense, he shouldnt be floating oop anyways. I dont think i fold this after betting the turn FWIW, but i dont like it.

sc000t · #7 05-15-2007, 01:49 AM

Im thinking 8x shows up here more than anything else. A8/78/89 all suited ands most likely.

EDIT: Maybe 67cc???, I just cant see him playing a worse K like this or 555 either.

SpecT · #8 05-15-2007, 01:52 AM

guys 21/19

ill say it again for those whose missed it

21/19

A8s definitely isnt in his range. id say he usually 3bet or fold with sc's aswell

2weak · #9 05-15-2007, 01:58 AM

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guys 21/19

ill say it again for those whose missed it

21/19

A8s definitely isnt in his range. id say he usually 3bet or fold with sc's aswell

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If 8x isnt in his range he has to have 55.
or he is a donk with a high pp TT,or KQ etc. but his stats seem to be tagish

excluding 8x i cant really think of a hand villain would shove here (if he isnt a donk)

shpanko · #10 05-15-2007, 02:27 AM

If he's a 21/19 then isn't he really only flat-calling with pocket pairs? I don't see him having AA because of UTG, 6c7c seems possible also but I guess a 21/19 might even fold/3-bet that.

What are we putting him on such that our turn bet makes sense/is profitable?