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Old 11-24-2007, 04:33 AM
maverickai maverickai is offline
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Default Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

UTG+2 37.66/5.2/0.39,0.9,2.8 77 hands
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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, HERO calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, HERO ???

Things that are against me:
1) I can only win mainly with a flush. And that flush comes 11% by the river.
2) BB might cap, and I might be paying too much to see the flop
3) There's chance of players acting behind me to fold, thus not giving me enough implied odds.
4) I figure UTG+2 is holding a monster, like AA, KK, AKs to be able limp and re-raise in early position.

Things that are for me:
1) Players could be loose enuff to call behind, and the pot would be very inflated for a flush draw.
2) I'll get a lot of action from the BB and UTG+2 when I hit my flush draw.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:13 AM
rhayder rhayder is offline
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

Grunch:

Fold it and pick a better spot. I hate calling 2 bets like this. Because you might have position a call might be marginal.. but what are you going to do if you flop an Ax? Fold?
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:53 AM
Fadook Fadook is offline
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

Fold. That LRR really cuts into your implied odds and as you've said you know have serious domination concerns.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:19 AM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

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4) I figure UTG+2 is holding a monster, like AA, KK, AKs to be able limp and re-raise in early position.

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or he could just be an idiot who doesnt like being raised by the blinds. its not AA as often as u think. at the lower limit some ppl just do spazzy things at random times ... for some reason I often see suited cards in this spot.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

Fold.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:31 PM
LukeSLTS LukeSLTS is offline
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

Even if UTG has AA, KK, or AKs only 50% of the time I don't think it is worth paying 3 or possibly 4 bets to see the flop with this hand. Fold it now and then cry when the villains showdown 77 and 9Ts
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:38 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: Call preflop with A8s against a re-raise?

raise pf the 1st time.
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