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Old 06-20-2007, 03:30 PM
steel108 steel108 is offline
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Default Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

Sorry, new to the game. Just wanted to check if this was super standard. I am readless since I just sat at the table.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
HERO: $101.50
UTG+1: $38.20
CO: $95.70
Button: $162.45
SB: $21.80
BB: $39.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $3.5</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $14</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $57</font>, SB folds, HERO folds.
Uncalled bets: $43 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $43
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

I check/fold here.
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

i like it, as the flop is pretty dry and you block the nut-flush draw. the fold to the raise is also fine.
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

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I check/fold here.

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Really? How often is your CB frequency when your A-A-x-x misses (on a relative bland flop)?
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

I don't check fold EVERY time, but on this flop I'm inclined to. We just have so few outs and our hand just plays horribly on later streets.

You're gonna get looked up by a lot of weak hands here and the raise *probably* isn't profitable vs this many callers.

If we were against fewer callers I'd pot this almost 100% of the time, so this decision certainly is pretty marginal.
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

i disagree, i think this flop is one we should bet, the two 8s are also a nice blocker for a straight draw and leading here must appear pretty strong if we werent overaggro before. it obviously also depends on the table conditions that we dont know here.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

Pretty standard bet / fold with no reads it seems to me.

I would check this flop almost never.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

The factor that pushed me towards a CB here was my A of diamonds and my 8-8 blocking potential wraps. I can't really see someone getting crazy w a K high FD, but it seems that most really suck at PLO (me included).
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

I honestly don't mind check/fold in this spot. We are only playing one pair vs multi opponents with flush draw and possible straight draws. We are OOP and will be left guessing if we are called/raised. I really don't mind losing 3.5bbs and finding a better spot.
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Super Standard A-A-x-x flop fold

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Pretty standard bet / fold with no reads it seems to me.

I would check this flop almost never.

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