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Old 08-13-2007, 01:35 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Value town where art thou

no reads on this guy yet, seems loose/bad

he donkbet into me in a 3bet pot earlier and i folded

shove river?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $186.90
BB: $251.15
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $241.15
CO: $54.65
BTN: $202.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7.00, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, <font color="red">BB raises to $24.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $75.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $51.00

Flop: ($164) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($164) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $62.00</font>, Hero calls $62.00

River: ($288) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks,
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

i would check, mostly b/c its 4-bet and i think he has Ax a lot more often than QQ/JJ and folds QQ/JJ some meaningful %.

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Old 08-13-2007, 01:44 AM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

I really don't think there's much value left in this hand.

Might be able to squeeze something out of a lower pair since he's really bad, but it seems kinda doubtful.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:47 AM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

I don't think he ever folds anything for $63 more.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

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i would check, mostly b/c its 4-bet and i think he has Ax a lot more often than QQ/JJ and folds QQ/JJ some meaningful %.



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you think people flatcall 4bets with Ax hands more than with pairs?
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

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i would check, mostly b/c its 4-bet and i think he has Ax a lot more often than QQ/JJ and folds QQ/JJ some meaningful %.



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you think people flatcall 4bets with Ax hands more than with pairs?

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I think idiots do. They just love them some A-rag.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:56 AM
5thStreetHog 5thStreetHog is offline
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i would check, mostly b/c its 4-bet and i think he has Ax a lot more often than QQ/JJ and folds QQ/JJ some meaningful %.



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you think people flatcall 4bets with Ax hands more than with pairs?

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I think idiots do. They just love them some A-rag.

[/ QUOTE ]Agreed,i see it all the time.If you shove its just as likely to be a bluff as it is a VB.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:10 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

i would check. its amazing how many times you see A-rag here - and these players are happy to check it down, but at the same time are willing to call a big river bet.

I dont think you can get much value out of QQ, JJ, 99 here so i think just check
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:12 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

This look like QQ. The reason I say that is because he squuezed preflop which makes AJ/AQ/AK likely IF he has an ace. Now, if he has an ace (with any of these decent kickers), then he is putting his last $63 in on the river.

Shovel.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:17 AM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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Default Re: Value town where art thou

check, aren't we only ahead of QQ here even if a flat call doesn't point to A-rag...he's bad, he could have an A here and i think it makes up a better part of his range...
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