AC scenario!!!

[valenzuela]

Suppose that borodog & pvn manage to convince a huge amount of the population and we go AC, what happens to people already on jail?

[Copernicus]

They move to borodog and pvns house for some non-initiation of force.

[Richard Tanner]

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Suppose that borodog & pvn manage to convince a huge amount of the population and we go AC, what happens to people already on jail?

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I imagine those that are ON jail will simply climb off.

But, and I'm just guessing here because there's no "correct" answer, they would be released since no lawful authority exists to hold them. That is, if you don't count the victims families or the victims themselves. But because any DROs/Houses of arbitration wouldn't have existed when the crimes were commited and the victims couldn't have contracts at that time, all the criminals would have to go free.

Cody

[Taso]

No jail in AC-land? Well, are there laws? What is done with people that don't fit in with society? Exile?

[owsley]

I am guessing that a private security firm would offer provide people the opportunity to buy a service to keep them imprisioned, and if it was worth it to pay them rather than be put in danger, people would do it. If enough people have an interest in something and want it done, a possible solution be developed.

[Richard Tanner]

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No jail in AC-land? Well, are there laws? What is done with people that don't fit in with society? Exile?

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I'd assume there would be jail (although Niels always said imprisoning was bad so I'm not sure) but those people are in prison because of an unlawful authority (the state) and unjust laws (those ordered and enforced by the state). Because of this, it would seem unlikely that the ACists would want to keep people in jail because of state laws. Also, it's hard to justify "grandfathering" someone into prision.

Cody

[Zygote]

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Suppose that borodog & pvn manage to convince a huge amount of the population and we go AC, what happens to people already on jail?

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If we went AC and the jails were privatized and shares of the jail given to the citizens then they would get a board and run the jails. They'd change the rules of they want. They'd divide the company however they want. They'd outsource if they want.. etc.

[ALawPoker]

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I imagine those that are ON jail will simply climb off.

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lol

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But, and I'm just guessing here because there's no "correct" answer, they would be released since no lawful authority exists to hold them. That is, if you don't count the victims families or the victims themselves. But because any DROs/Houses of arbitration wouldn't have existed when the crimes were commited and the victims couldn't have contracts at that time, all the criminals would have to go free.

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I'm not sure I agree, but I'm just guessing too. I'd imagine there would be some transition where criminals with actual victims would have an arbitration hearing before being released, assuming their victim(s) were not already compensated.

And it would make sense that their release might be supervised in some way by some agency working on behalf of the victims, to make an effort to ensure a good faith attempt to pay the required compensation (if the compensation was a large enough sum for that to be worthwhile).

For all the drug users and other types of crimes that aren't actually crimes, I agree they would just flat out be released.

Maybe I'm being nitty, but I just want to be clear that it wouldn't be like you flip a switch and now everyone who was in jail is now walking the streets with a clean slate.

[AlexM]

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Suppose that borodog & pvn manage to convince a huge amount of the population and we go AC, what happens to people already on jail?

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If we went AC and the jails were privatized and shares of the jail given to the citizens then they would get a board and run the jails. They'd change the rules of they want. They'd divide the company however they want. They'd outsource if they want.. etc.

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[Richard Tanner]

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For all the drug users and other types of crimes that aren't actually crimes, I agree they would just flat out be released.


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That's why I used "victims" because I, like you and most others, agree that drug use is a victimless crime.

Cody