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06-02-2007, 02:49 AM
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$16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
I'm pretty sure this is standard, considering the SB is the most likely hand to have hit this board and he checked.
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t2310) UTG+1 (t1675) MP1 (t635) MP2 (t2445) CO (t1915) Button (t1230) SB (t2270) Hero (t1020) Preflop: Hero is in BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls t200, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t200, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, Hero checks Flop: (t800) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t820 (All-in)</font> 
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#6
06-02-2007, 04:11 AM
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Re: $16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
Look, Kevin, you aren't out of this SnG, yet with 1000 left and the blinds at 100/200. Heck, you aren't even short stack. And what's more than that, you shoved all your chips in AGAIN without definitely having anything at all. You can't bet here, because doing so will pot commit you. But there are more cards to see. You can use your chips more wisely other places. You aren't in the money, yet, so you have to remain playing tightly when you're short-stacked at a table and you haven't gone all-in preflop. A straight draw doesn't win you any more hands than a flush draw when the other player has just flopped a pair. Wait for the nuts and then, my friend, make your move. Take care.
Cameron
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#7
06-02-2007, 04:21 AM
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Re: $16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
It doesn't really matter that we don't have a made hand, the point here is that the only likely player to have hit this board is the sb who already has checked, and taking down this pot is a substantial increase to our chipstack. The OESD only helps for the times that someone does in fact have a hand (some pair or a possible big hand from SB) and calls the shove.
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#8
06-02-2007, 04:43 AM
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Re: $16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
I completely disagree with Cameron and think this is an instashove.
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#9
06-02-2007, 04:53 AM
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Re: $16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
::shrugs:: It's a risky move, and it may be late enough in the game to take that risk, but I would still check. I know what you're saying about the SB, but maybe check your notes on what he does after the flop with a pair. If he raises usually and has just now checked, yeah go all in. If he is an habitual slow-player...maybe not. I'm only at the $33 SnG level now, so I don't know all there is to know. This is only what I know from experience. Take care.
Cameron
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#10
06-02-2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: $16s - 100/200, Shove OESD with the short stack?
This is 16$ turbo cameron. You can't really wait to hit the 'nuts' and get payed of. This is an insta push imo. Add that 800 to your stack. If someone calls with like A7 you are still not that far behind.
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