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Old 02-17-2006, 09:09 PM
Godfather80 Godfather80 is offline
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Default Stupid river, do I still raise?

SB is 36/13/2.25. When he wakes up on the river, I'm not sure what the best line is.

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.25
Button: $29.25
SB: $48.25
Hero: $113.85

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.5, Button folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $1.25.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10, 2 players)
<font color="#cc3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero...
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:16 PM
jayknitter jayknitter is offline
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Default Re: Stupid river, do I still raise?

#Grunch#

Call and see what happens...nothing tells me that he has more than a pair of aces at this point, but he could have hit a sloppy two pair. If you raise and he calls I think your beat most of the time.
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:20 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Stupid river, do I still raise?

Hmmm. Hands that beat you; A2, A4, 53, some stupid slowplay.
Hands you beat: A3 &amp; A5?

I think I'm comfortable with a call here. You are behind fairly often, and the rest of the time he has TPNK, so a raise isn't great unless he's a total calling station.

Actually, from the action he probably is.
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:45 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Stupid river, do I still raise?

Raise to $6. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:14 PM
WoolyHat WoolyHat is offline
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Default Re: Stupid river, do I still raise?

If the betting were a conversation it would be something like this:

Preflop

Villian: I have some cards
Godfather80: I don't have a premium hand... like you're even listening to me anyway.

Flop

Villian: I don't have much
Godfather80: I have a hand
Villian: I said I didn't have *much*... I do have something

Turn

Villian: I'm still not feeling great about my hand, or I'm trapping, I wanna see what you're gonna do.
Godfather80: My hand is good.
Villian: I probably wasn't trapping... but I do want to see another card

River

Villian says, one of:

a) I had 5/3 and my draw got there
b) I had A3 or A5 and got there
c) I had a small pair and want to see a cheap showdown

Obviously in cases a and b he's calling or re-raising, so you don't want to raise here. In case c he probably won't call a worthwhile raise anyway.

Godfather80: I call.
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Old 02-18-2006, 10:30 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
SB is 36/13/2.25. When he wakes up on the river, I'm not sure what the best line is.

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.25
Button: $29.25
SB: $48.25
Hero: $113.85

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.5, Button folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $1.25.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10, 2 players)
<font color="#cc3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero...

[/ QUOTE ]
<font color="blue">Hero calls, fearing Aces up. Villain shows K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHIG. </font>
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Old 02-18-2006, 10:40 AM
JimDrang JimDrang is offline
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Default Re: RESULTS

These downy river bets are sticking you like a gnat to ish. Raise to 6 seems good if he has high showdown %. Fold to 3bet.
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