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Old 10-10-2007, 08:22 PM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

Villain is in the 20/15 range, pretty solid. I'm around 21/18 or so. We have a bit of history but not too much. One hand a few months ago he 3bet my LP raise with KQs, I just called with AA and he took a passive line on a K65 flop and shoved over my turn bet (he c/c flop). And another hand a while ago I started a hand with only 70bbs and I 3bet him with QQ and he shoved with JJ.

Anyways, turn is a bet right? How much?

If anybody likes a check please state why and what they do if villain bets say 2/3 pot.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $457.79
BB: $281.70
UTG: $501.90
CO: $836.98
BTN: $693.59

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $76</font>, BTN calls $52

Turn: ($188) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

I like betting here. I say bet 130 here or so.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

How often do you c/r? If you bet the turn you have to call a shove, right? His range is probably something like AA-66, some random 9xes and 87. If you fire again he could fold a lot of that. You have outs against all but the boats if he does come over the top. $140
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

c/r on flop here is a pretty dubious line, he is going to think your bluffing a lot of the time here. if your going to do so, you've got to be willing to go all the way, which means making sure stacks are deep enough come river.

personally i either bet $90 here or so on the turn allowing a river push with enough fold equity, or check and hope for a free turn. c-rai isn't too bad either.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

If he'll call the turn with TT here i don't bet.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:34 PM
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c/r on flop here is a pretty dubious line, he is going to think your bluffing a lot of the time here. if your going to do so, you've got to be willing to go all the way, which means making sure stacks are deep enough come river.

personally i either bet $90 here or so on the turn allowing a river push with enough fold equity, or check and hope for a free turn. c-rai isn't too bad either.

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You're right that this is a flop that is pretty innocuous and a c/r seems bluffy. However I like putting players to the test here and see if they're willing to rebluff or if they're just going to fold even though I'm not repping much. In general I just like putting pressure on people I guess, and my range here isn't just air, I will c/r this flop with 9x, 66, sometimes stuff like JJ/TT if I flatcall pre. 78 looking to 5bet ai as well, so it's tough for him to do much unless he wants to risk a lot of chips.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:04 PM
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and my range here isn't just air, I will c/r this flop with 9x, 66,

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Yeah, but people never believe you.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:05 PM
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and my range here isn't just air, I will c/r this flop with 9x, 66,

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sick range!
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

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and my range here isn't just air, I will c/r this flop with 9x, 66,

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sick range!

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Flop c/r bluff turns flush draw

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and my range here isn't just air, I will c/r this flop with 9x, 66,

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sick range!

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Have to mix it up!
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