2/4NL Hand from a coaching session

[jfish]

think shoving >> c/c

[MatthewRyan]

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think shoving >> c/c

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lets give the fish a chance to bluff instead of make a hero call on terrible turn for us

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

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think shoving >> c/c

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ya i agree, i dont get why we checked the turn csidering hes so passive, pretty bad play imo, but now that u checkd and passive player oerbets like this u have to fold with no spade

[Praetor]

i prefer shoving, as played I might fold

[ConfusedAgain]

fold of course

[AAismyfriend]

My thinking was that while we were def beat a portion of the time, he could be doing this with any PP, especially one with a spade based on what I'd seen of his play thus far, and I think he's bad enough to peel the flop with an A2-A5 type of hand and could see him shoving one of those hands here with a spade as well. I dunno, I thought it was close, and still don't really know what I think is best here.

[SuperRu]

It's marginal, does it really matter? Although my preference i fold.

I don't like shoving the turn, though.

[fearless2k]

in my experiance this is a bluff 70% of the time and a flush 20% of the time and weak pair type hand 10%, i call all day, i see enough bluffs in similar spots

[dd323]

what am i in bizarro world?!?!?! who wouldn't just shove here?

[Yeti]

i think putting it in and chk calling are pretty similar v an idiot, just dont fold after checking