Two full ring overpair flop decisions

[emil3000]

Getting back into full ring a bit, I don't really know how to respond to flop raises with overpairs anymore... At 6max I usually just jam it in but all full ring players are nits so...

Hand 1: No reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($1413.10)
MP1 ($810.50)
MP2 ($675)
MP3 ($1259.75)
CO ($1152)
Button ($1544.30)
SB ($1147.30)
Hero ($1241)
UTG ($451)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $80, MP3 folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($215) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $450</font>?

Hand 2: No reads. I don't believe in it. I believe in shove shove shove!

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MP2 ($1473)
CO ($1318)
Button ($1018.60)
Hero ($1132)
BB ($1000)
UTG ($1092)
MP1 ($469.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>