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Old 11-19-2007, 03:09 AM
imtav imtav is offline
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Default 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

9 man $6.50 SNG, all 9 still remain with blinds at 25/50
My stack was about 1100 at the time. I had no good reads and everyone in the pot had me covered (or just about).

4 of the 7 to act in front of me had already limped in and I had 88 in the SB.

My 2 thoughts were either limp behind for set value, or push all-in to try and grab the 275 in the middle after everyone had shown a good amount of weakness by limping. The factor that made me decide to push all-in was the thought that the BB might see 5 limps as passive and try the big all-in steal himself.

What's the best play to make here? Set value limp, all-in steal, or a smaller raise?
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

9 times out of 10 the complete is better, imo
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

I limp. People love to make hero calls with their garbage, unfortunatley its usually one or two overs which hit 100%.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

i can think of no worse play than wasting money raising out of small blind with 88. what do you think you accomplish by making this play of raising out of small blind? what are you trying to accomplish? you will end up building a huge pot that will represent 50% of your stack (or more) and will then make it way too enticing to steal when you miss your set and inevitably the K9o just busted you.
also you didnt mention where the limpers came from but what are you going to do when the UTG limper shoves into your raise? you have just committed yourself by raising. also if you are going to raise to fold from this spot then why raise.
im not sure i think the pot is big enough to steal even in the next 50 100 blind level.
bottom line there is no raise in this spot that is +EV.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

dick, he obviously wants to push, and not make some retarded raise
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

Yea, in a 6.5 I like a complete too.
I don't hate a push with so much deadmoney tho.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

then the pot isnt a big enough % of chips in play to justify. i would like to know if you guys would think shoving at 50 100 is enough +EV to justify the play of risking tourney life in a flip.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

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then the pot isnt a big enough % of chips in play to justify. i would like to know if you guys would think shoving at 50 100 is enough +EV to justify the play of risking tourney life in a flip.

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gtfo, it's surely an ok move, but most seem to agree that completing is better.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

Those t275 are 25% of our stack.
I'd really like to have them.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: 88 in SB, limped around preflop.

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then the pot isnt a big enough % of chips in play to justify. i would like to know if you guys would think shoving at 50 100 is enough +EV to justify the play of risking tourney life in a flip.

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at 50/100 you end up stealing preflop sometimes and other times you'll be against dead money in a flip making it worth it. With BB 50 you're relying on fold equity, probably no one has much and hopefully they aren't stupid to call you with garbage. Trying to flop a set like its your job is obvious plus equity too though, moreso with the 50 chip BB IMO.
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