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Old 11-21-2007, 09:05 PM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

I have about 10k, tsarrast is directly to my right and covers. He had 20k earlier and I doubled up off of him in a rr pot when i rr QT, flop top pair and get it in vs a semi bluff. Maybe he is a little steaming but i really doubt it.It's pretty early in my session so no more of a dynamic than that. He prob thinks i squeeze more than most but not a huge amount or anything i dont think.

313OG opens to 175 in the HJ, tsarrast flat calls, I repop to ~775 from the button, 313 folds, tsar 4bets to ~2700.

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oh, edit, I have AKs

2nd edit: 313 has 5k.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

I dont know villain, but I would shove
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:13 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

man i always get it in here...

god the back raise tilts me, but this seems like a good spot for it
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:23 PM
TheFuGu TheFuGu is offline
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

It looks like you are needing some justification for shoving here....given your description this is standard...so he has KK suck it up...
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

why is it standard? do you play ftp/stars 25/50?
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

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man i always get it in here...


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I feel like I get it in bad too often in these spots sometimes though, but I don't really know what else to do. I don't think either calling or folding are terrible though. In fact, I know a lot of people will hate it but I kinda like flatting this raise. I would consider flat calling pre (not 3betting) often as well.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

People just always tend to have it here. I think I fold.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

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People just always tend to have it here. I think I fold.

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seriously, since I've started seeing back raises happen more often this month at 25/50 and 10/20, I have never seen a bluff, and always gotten it in bad against them. Its the new limp/rr.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

I fold... it scares the hell out of me that he made it 2700 as opposed to 2000-2300ish..
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50

Hmm tough.. Id prolly push but im wondering if this spewing and he just shows up with AA/KK here too often.
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