2 river leads (100nl)

[Orsman]

How often is a big river lead a bluff/worse hand(Frustrated/tilty move when missed a draw and wants to steal the pot)

Hand 1:

Villain is playing 53/14/1 over 60 hands. limp/calls and check/calls alot, never seen this before so he probably rivered me...?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $163.85
CO: $123.70
Hero (BTN): $125.55
SB: $95
BB: $100
UTG: $122.65

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG calls $7

Turn: ($24.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG calls $20

River: ($64.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $41</font>, Hero

Hand 2:

No stats yet on villain but from what I've seen from him so far he doesn't seem to be that good.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $139.95
BB: $117
UTG: $27.25
Hero (MP): $133.60
CO: $158.45
BTN: $30.45

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, UTG folds

Flop: ($14.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, SB calls $10, BB calls $10

Turn: ($44.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $34</font>, SB folds, BB calls $34

River: ($112.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $68.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero

edit: Changed the four card thing

[the machine]

hand 2 id lead towards a call hand 1 i think is a fold.

[Kinbor]

i'd fold river hand 1 and probably call the second one. there are so many hands he peels with on the flop that have you crushed on the river it's not even funny. in the second one, you are getting great odds against a guy who looked like he was drawing- his line makes no sense. he puts a lot of chips in on the turn where it looks like you are not going anywhere. don't know why would he slowplay here. it looks like a busted flush draw and it probably is enough percentage of the time to make this a call.

[sightless]

hand #1 is a fold. i never see a bluff in that spot
hand #2 is close but the pot is big and its only 68 so i most likely call

[keikiwai]

orsman,

hand 1: sucks but some of his busted draws and pair + draws have a Q in it, so fold

hand 2: i think you have to call given the board, and actually i'd expect to be ahead a decent amount, not really even that close imo

when you scoop the pot, get up from your computer, do a little dance, and go like this:

[early325]

hand 1 - fold
hand 2 - call

[grando]

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hand 1 - fold
hand 2 - call

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