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Old 10-16-2007, 04:11 PM
klb. klb. is offline
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

As played he's calling range obv beats you as ikestoys said, but what Ax hands could he possible call with at the flop. As I stated before I think you almost turn your hand into a bluff by raising the flop, and the ace is an excellent card to follow it up. You will fold out alot of the hands in his range that beat you, I would say that there's more value in this than to try to check it down and hope that your hands good (it probably wont be alot of the time. And yeah, if he calls the turn again I would definitely consider to push the river. I might want a little better read to raise flop/fire/fire though :P But I like that better then to raise flop/check down.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

GRUNCH:

This is interesting. I fire again as a bluff.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:25 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

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GRUNCH:

This is interesting. I fire again as a bluff.

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I thought about that, but I don't like it. That A changed nothing. The only hands OP can represent is 44/3x and I don't think villain will buy that. I think he calls turn with TT+ putting hero on a PP and with those stacks we have no fe on the river and it would be a really expensive bluff anyway.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:26 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

I think your flop raise is too small.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:54 PM
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I think your flop raise is too small.

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what does a bigger raise do better than this?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

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Call flop. Check turn.

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Old 10-16-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

against an unknown i don't see the point in raising the flop here in pos.

as played i would check behind and call a river bet.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:19 PM
theplux theplux is offline
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Default Re: raise flop and fire turn?

I don't rly like the flop move against unknown. on nl200 ipoker every donks call 2 streets of value with any PP on this board so might as well get most value instead of turning your hand into big pot.
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