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Old 03-02-2007, 06:00 AM
Jayy Jayy is offline
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Default AQ river line check. 50NL

Looking for a river line here. Villain is 52/2 after 205 hands. No previous history between us. Criticism appreciated on previous streets as well.


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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BB): $53.35
UTG: $62.45
MP: $24.40
CO: $53
BTN: $33.20
SB: $49.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.5, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.25</font>, UTG calls $4.25, CO folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($14, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $9.50</font>, Hero calls $9.50

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($33, 2 players)
Hero ?
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:03 AM
thac thac is offline
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

You have to decide this on the turn.. since you called the turn, you have to call a river bet on this blank. You can make a blocking bet of around $11 if you want to, but I think I like to check/call here just because KQs or something is so much a part of his range and he'll probably fire another barrel if checked to.

You can stop these problems by folding the turn though.. preferably bet/folding. Bet around 9 and fold to a raise.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:07 AM
monkover monkover is offline
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

IŽd bet fold the turn. imo this is the best line because villain seems to be a station from his stats... at this level you can usually guess how sb play post flop by looking at his preflop stats...
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:08 AM
T-Bone98 T-Bone98 is offline
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

Raise to $3 preflop. As played I'm not sure if I like the turn check. He might have a FD and u don't wanna give free cards. If he raises the turn I would think about folding.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

As played I think a value bet of about $16 is normally good here especially against a villain whose stats are 52vpip.

I would have fired the turn though, you dont want villain hitting a possible straight / flush for free. If he were to reraise your turn bet you could conceivably get away from the hand as well.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:29 AM
Warteen Warteen is offline
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

River is a complete blank, so based on your turn play it looks like you can't fold in any event. Since you're not folding anyway and he's a calling station, you might as well bet. It might even save you a little money against a better hand (you check, he bets for more than you would have, you call).
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

Why are you checking the turn against a calling station? You bet for value. That's how you beat them. Plenty of draws and no reason to think your beat. Plus, betting the turn makes this hand a lot easier. When you check you have no idea where you're at.

If you're going to raise this hand OOP, then you have to play it strong when you hit. Otherwise what's the point of raising? If you're just going to shutdown you are going to get a lot pots stolen or get drawn out on.

As played, you could make a blocking bet of $10-$12 or check call a reasonable bet. Both are fine plays here.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

As you played it I think you have to c/c a river bet (or c/f the turn).

I often c/c this turn, but I really think betting is better. Even mega-aggro-tards have been checking behind turns with FDs on me recently (wtf?!)
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: AQ river line check. 50NL

Hand played out:

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($33, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all in to $46.95</font>, Hero ?

After a small block bet, how often am I good here against this type of player?
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:04 PM
allaboutmyfetti allaboutmyfetti is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Hand played out:

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($33, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all in to $46.95</font>, Hero ?

After a small block bet, how often am I good here against this type of player?

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh, making a blocking bet (and such a small one at that) was probably your worst option here ... esp. when it's so frickin obvious what you are doing.
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