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Old 11-08-2006, 12:05 AM
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Man I am really sorry, I thought you were just giving me a hardtime. I looked it it like stoping at a redlight, I just couldn't see how anyone could think otherwise, especially a Democrat who cared about the future of their party.

She has fitmly stated she will immediatley raise the minimum wage, poof, there goes the economy. She has stated that she will tie up the current Executive branck with special investigations, poof goes the chances for a Democrat to win the Presidency in 2008. Shall I go on? OK, one more, just last week she said how terrible the current economic condition of our coutry had become during the Bush administration to include high unemployment. Can't she even read a newspaper or GAO report? Poof went her credibility.

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Old 11-08-2006, 12:07 AM
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If increasing the minimum wage makes the economy go poof, why havent states that have done this on their own gone poof?
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:08 AM
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:12 AM
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If increasing the minimum wage makes the economy go poof, why havent states that have done this on their own gone poof?

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Perhaps you should investigate the three main States that have done this, analyze their economy and then hide and watch.

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Old 11-08-2006, 12:13 AM
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So who would be a better alternative than Pelosi?

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Stalin?

Jimbo

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Come on now get serious. Stalin wouldn't approve of gay marriage and probably not even civil unions.

I know you're right wing -- but what is it about Pelosi that you find so irritating? Can you name an example? Would you find any democrat-type (who is fairly to the left) less irritating, or are people like you just a lost cause and they shouldn't even bother trying to please you? In short, why would getting rid of her show foresight?

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thinking of the long-term, it's tough to imagine a worse platform than that Pelosi has espoused over the years.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:28 AM
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She has fitmly stated she will immediatley raise the minimum wage, poof, there goes the economy

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Veto.

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She has stated that she will tie up the current Executive branck with special investigations, poof goes the chances for a Democrat to win the Presidency in 2008

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Clinton was investigated, Repubs looked like asses, Bush won.

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OK, one more, just last week she said how terrible the current economic condition of our coutry had become during the Bush administration to include high unemployment. Can't she even read a newspaper or GAO report? Poof went her credibility.

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This statement is highly unlikely to effect the 2008 presidency.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:53 AM
Mickey Brausch Mickey Brausch is offline
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If increasing the minimum wage makes the economy go poof, why havent states that have done this on their own gone poof?

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Perhaps you should investigate the three main States that have done this, analyze their economy and then hide and watch.

[/ QUOTE ]You oppose the increase of the minimum wage but you do not say by how much; therefore, one would assume you oppose any increase. This, in turn, would mean that you're not too fond of the very idea of a minimum wage.

Well, almost the whole of Europe has minimum wage legislated. The United Kingdom had its national MW passed in 1999 and the British economy is not doing too badly. Neither is the whole of Europe, come to think of it.

Here are the cliff notes:

Contrary to myth, many European countries are better positioned for the future than the United States, with healthier economies and longer healthy life expectancies, greater math and science literacy, free or affordable education from preschool through college, universal health care, less poverty and inequality and more corporations combining social responsibility with world-class innovation.

Among the world's 100 largest corporations in 2005, just 33 were U.S. companies while 48 were European. In 2002, 38 were U.S. companies and 36 were European. CEO-worker pay gaps are much narrower at European companies than American. Americans work over 200 hours more a year on average than workers in other rich industrialized nations.


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Old 11-08-2006, 02:22 AM
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If increasing the minimum wage makes the economy go poof, why havent states that have done this on their own gone poof?

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Perhaps you should investigate the three main States that have done this, analyze their economy and then hide and watch.

[/ QUOTE ]You oppose the increase of the minimum wage but you do not say by how much; therefore, one would assume you oppose any increase. This, in turn, would mean that you're not too fond of the very idea of a minimum wage.

Well, almost the whole of Europe has minimum wage legislated. The United Kingdom had its national MW passed in 1999 and the British economy is not doing too badly. Neither is the whole of Europe, come to think of it.

Here are the cliff notes:

Contrary to myth, many European countries are better positioned for the future than the United States, with healthier economies and longer healthy life expectancies, greater math and science literacy, free or affordable education from preschool through college, universal health care, less poverty and inequality and more corporations combining social responsibility with world-class innovation.

Among the world's 100 largest corporations in 2005, just 33 were U.S. companies while 48 were European. In 2002, 38 were U.S. companies and 36 were European. CEO-worker pay gaps are much narrower at European companies than American. Americans work over 200 hours more a year on average than workers in other rich industrialized nations.


Mickey Brausch

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arguing for a minimum wage is beyond retarded and shows you have virtually no comprehension of basic economics.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:26 AM
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Contrary to myth, many European countries are better positioned for the future than the United States, with healthier economies and longer healthy life expectancies, greater math and science literacy, free or affordable education from preschool through college, universal health care, less poverty and inequality and more corporations combining social responsibility with world-class innovation.

Among the world's 100 largest corporations in 2005, just 33 were U.S. companies while 48 were European. In 2002, 38 were U.S. companies and 36 were European. CEO-worker pay gaps are much narrower at European companies than American.

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What's this have to do with the merits of a minimum wage?
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Americans work over 200 hours more a year on average than workers in other rich industrialized nations.

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If I stole a billion dollars from Bill Gates I wouldn't work another day in my life. Doesn't mean it's right does it?
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:29 AM
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I missed the part of your post where you explained why Pelosi pisses you off so much.

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Rush has been using a sinister sounding voice inflection whenever he says her name for at least the past year. Do you need any more reason?
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