3-betting with 88

[beachbum]

Button had been playing very LAGgy, like 60/25. BB was only at the table about 2 orbits and the only read I had on him was that he was loose.
I don't 3-bet light at all; actually I do it too infrequently where it's probably a leak. Comments on all streets welcome.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $260.90
CO: $49.15
Button: $206.90
beachbum: $96
BB: $126.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) beachbum is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">beachbum raises to $14</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($32, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">beachbum bets $25</font>, BB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($82, 2 players)
beachbum checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $14</font>, beachbum <font color="#cc0000">???</font>

[BDaws]

Fold. You only have 77-33 beat. If you were deeper, you could think about a c/r AI, but you only have 60 behind.

[Claunchy]

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Fold. You only have 77-33 beat. If you were deeper, you could think about a c/r AI, but you only have 60 behind.

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This guy's playing a lot more than 77-33 here. Honestly I think he has air enough to call down if he's gonna bet small like this.

[BDaws]

I could see him floating if he caught any piece of the flop. Even a gutshot, but really, there is nothing on this board to call down with that doesn't have Hero beat. I guess calling down isn't bad because he is giving you great odds, and you see a retarded bluff enough, but I would fold.

[drewvy]

2outer at best

[HumanACtor]

1) Call this pf for set value against this LAG

2) Rserve 3-betting 88 for when youre *in* position

3) Dont float OOP, either fold or AI that flop.

Now can someone better than me tell me if this advice is goot?

[Jamougha]

After getting cold-called I like checking the flop. As played I fire the turn and pray for a fold.

[True]

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After getting cold-called I like checking the flop. As played I fire the turn and pray for a fold.

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I also wouldn't have chosen a hand like 88 to 3-bet with. The value from just calling is pretty high as you hit a disguised hand so you will get paid off. I think there is a lot of value to 88 just as a pair but OOP it will be a lot harder in a re-raised pot to find this out. Probably a lot more costly aswell.

True

[gimmetheloot]

O god, high variance is to just c/r and hope he is a donkey bluffing with QJs or some [censored] hand. Usually is this more than its AA-JJ(stupid QJs hand). Somtimes his hand iwll be TT-99.

It works sometimes...sometimes not. I hate these [censored] spots.

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