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10-28-2007, 10:00 AM
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Pot given to wrong player
This game is run by the local fire company, it is very
informal most of the players know each other the dealers have no profesional training. Last night was a small night we were playing 6 handed UTG decides to straddle, this is his first hand, folded around to the big blind who calls and we see a flop it comes 10 3 5 BB checks UTG bets 10 BB calls turn is another 10 BB fires 20 into the pot UTG goes all in for 86 more BB calls and shows 10 3 for the full house and UTG shows 10 4 and says Great I need a 4 river comes a 3 dealer pushes pot to BB, UTG says good game and leaves. About 10 minutes later we are talking about the hand a player says that he really had to rub it in by hitting another 3 on the river. At this moment i realised what happened and asked the guy who won the pot if he was sure another 3 fell on the river he said yes everyone agreed and i tell them that the pot should have been split. they all agree after the fact. what if anything should be done when the loser of this pot comes back to play? Should he be told what happened, or just say well thats what you get for not reading your hand correctly? 
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#2
10-28-2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
I think that ideally the winner of the pot should set aside approximately half of that pot and have it given to the guy the next time he comes back. If that doesn't happen in a month or two let him have it.
However, if the winner doesn't agree to that I don't think he should be made to split the pot. In order to avoid problems I think there has to be a time limit to these things so that people can't come back 3 hours later and say "blah, blah, blah, give me the pot" and argue about what the board did or did not contain.
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#3
10-28-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
[ QUOTE ]
I think there has to be a time limit to these things so that people can't come back 3 hours later and say "blah, blah, blah, give me the pot" and argue about what the board did or did not contain. [/ QUOTE ] There is such a time limit. The statute of limitations expires when the next shuffle begins.
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#4
10-28-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
In a casino, they do set time limits (like the start of the next hand). In a home game, you can do what's right rather than what the letter of the rules might stipulate (and since it's a home game you don't have such written rules, I don't imagine).
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#6
10-28-2007, 05:41 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
When the pot is collected the hand is over. A collected pot belongs to the person who collected whether he was awarded correctly or not. This rule appeared in print at least as earlier as 1950.
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#7
10-28-2007, 06:18 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
Tough luck, you should at least alert the player that lost about the situation. I do not think he deserves his money back, but it would certainly be a nice gesture to give him half.
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#8
10-28-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I think there has to be a time limit to these things so that people can't come back 3 hours later and say "blah, blah, blah, give me the pot" and argue about what the board did or did not contain. [/ QUOTE ] There is such a time limit. The statute of limitations expires when the next shuffle begins. [/ QUOTE ] Right, but in a friendly home game you might want to make it a little longer (I wouldn't though).
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#9
10-28-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
Too late to change anything. The other player got the pot and it shouldn't change. The pot was awarded and thats it. For a home game you shouldn't try to alter this rule. Can a pot after 10 minutes then next time someone will want it changed after 30 minutes and so on.
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#10
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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Re: Pot given to wrong player
It depends on your home game rules.
At casinos, once the pot is awarded, hands mucked, next hand started, etc., that's it - no going back. And certainly if someone leaves they aren't entitled to anything from before. But at a friendly home game, you can right wrongs, especially among friends. The rules for a home game can be one of two ways: 1. The player has to declare his hand; or 2. The "cards speak", meaning winner is determined by what the cards are as long as they are shown at showdown. It doesn't matter what any player says is his hand - the cards are examined to determine who has the winning hand. If your home game rule is "cards speak," then the error should be corrected regardless of the time passed.
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