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Old 10-19-2006, 01:07 AM
BrendoK BrendoK is offline
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Default Stars $5 45, make the call here?

Middle stages of a stars 45 person sng, worth the risk to build a stack here? No reads as both players have just arrived at table....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t4685)
CO (t1650)
Button (t3180)
SB (t850)
BB (t1695)
UTG (t4035)
MP1 (t2345)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, Q.
1 fold,
MP1 raises to t600</font>, Hero calls t600, 2 folds, SB raises to t850, 1 fold
, MP1 calls t250, Hero calls t250.

Flop: (t2750) 6, K, J (3 players)</font>
MP1 bets t1495 (All-In)</font>,
Hero ??


I know that I'm getting good odds on the call here but is it worth becoming short stacked, I only have the flush draw as i'm assuming my ace is no good given the action.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

reraise preflop

folding flop is not even an option
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

call quick, you got 12-15 good outs and a favorite over any pair here, coinflip with 2 pairs and 40% against a set. With those pot odds - I call even if he turns over pocket Jacks and shows them to me.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

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reraise preflop

folding flop is not even an option

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Don't think he can re-raise PF. SB pushed to 850, which was not double the bet.

Call in a heartbeat, you need to build up a stack to make it deep here.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

Call flop.

Reraising PF after first initial raise is terrible. Reraising after SB push isn't possible.
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

Call! It just turnd into one of those pots that increased a bit too fast for comfort, but you still have to call if the odds are there...
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

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call quick, you got 12-15 good outs and a favorite over any pair here, coinflip with 2 pairs and 40% against a set. With those pot odds - I call even if he turns over pocket Jacks and shows them to me.

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Very easy call. At some point you almost always have to gamble to go deep. This is one of those spots. Meh, its only $5 anyways . . .
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

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Call flop.

Reraising PF after first initial raise is terrible. Reraising after SB push isn't possible.

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I would RR to isolate personally. Is that just spew?

As played call flop.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Stars $5 45, make the call here?

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Call flop.

Reraising PF after first initial raise is terrible. Reraising after SB push isn't possible.

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I would RR to isolate personally. Is that just spew?

As played call flop.

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I haven't stoved it, but I'd suspect we are behind a legitimate range here, probably as around a 60/40 dog. I think simply calling with position is the better play here. Maybe reading my quote as "reraising PF after first initial raise is probably not optimal" would better convey what I was thinking, as a push isn't atrocious, I just think playing a flop with position and this hand has more +EV.

FWIW, I am assuming a default raising range of something like 88+, AJs+, AQo+. Adding something like 66-77, AJo, ATs, KQs would likely make this closer to 50-50. Like I said I haven't Pokerstoved it at all so I'm not totally sure.

If we had a read on MP1 as at all loose this becomes an easy push.

Maybe I'm giving a random $5.50 player too much credit with this range. Thats the variable.
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