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Old 11-16-2007, 09:26 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

Villian is 32/26/3, steals blinds 42% over 100 hands. Do you raise at any point here? If so, where?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:28 AM
YanMTL YanMTL is offline
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

i check-raise the flop and lead all the way after, if i get raise on the later street, i call down.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

I would call down all the way against him to gain maximum if he is bluffing!
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:32 AM
xerber xerber is offline
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

i c/r flop and go from there - he should calldown pretty lightly, since we could be semibluffing with the FD.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:32 AM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

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i check-raise the flop and lead all the way after, if i get raise on the later street, i call down.

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c/r the flop because you are going to get a ton of A-high call downs that think you are c/r'ing a flush draw. Also call down from a turn raise, because people love to make really dumb A-high free showdown raises on 3of a suit boards.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:07 PM
TheDudeChad TheDudeChad is offline
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

I agree with everyone else who says c/r flop. No one seems to give me credit for any kind of hand when I CR a flop like this.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

Okay, how do you feel about this?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:16 PM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

not too shabby to wait til turn. This seems like the type of player that double barrels a lot.

Having said that, I think c/r the flop is still safest and it just feels like the most profitable line. I'd totally hate to see him check behind the turn on this board
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

i also c/r the flop. i think a trickier situation arises if we don't have a diamond. what would the line be then?

in that case, c/r flop, c/c flop donk safe turn, c/c c/c donk safe river, c/c c/r are all on the table for me. if i didn't have time to think about it and i'd probably c/c and donk safe turn.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Top pair/eh kicker on draw heavy board

32/26/3 - well the AF is high although it is not really over a large enough sample, but after the turn raise I'm calling down.
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