200NL Gross Spot with a set?

pdoran10 · #1 10-02-2007, 05:33 AM

Hand history is on my desktop and i dont want to get up, so i will improvise. Villain is playing on the looser side of TAG around 24/20ish seems to play and hand read well and has a very high postflop AF over a smallish sample size. Villain should view me as TAG, but I have run into a few crappy spots at the table and had to fold after showing aggression.

Hero has 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP calls $2, CO calls $2, BTN raises to $11. Hero calls(knowing loose full stacked fish will come along), MP calls, CO calls.

Flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks (i lead sometimes here, probably should have in hindsight), MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks (he has 7 AF, wtfkdfjalfj!!)

Turn: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $34, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets $68, BTN jams for $105 more effective.

Fistpump call? Reluctant call? or reluctant [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] fold?

skibbel · #2 10-02-2007, 05:40 AM

Going for c/r in 4-way reraised pot turns your hand face up?

I'd just lead the flop, and definitly bet the turn smaller, board is so dry...

River sucks, i think you're beaten mostly. Don't know if i can fold, it's still possible he was squeezing KQ.

pdoran10 · #3 10-02-2007, 05:42 AM

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Going for c/r in 4-way reraised pot turns your hand face up?

I'd just lead the flop, and definitly bet the turn smaller, board is so dry...

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not necessarily going for a c/r and bet sizing is fine, belive me.

terp · #4 10-02-2007, 05:44 AM

i'm having a hard time figuring out what he expects your turn betting range to be, but this + how smart you think he is should tell you what to do on the river.

my instinct says fold

also, flop is a clear bet. people don't cbet this board with air and c/r shuts out the fish, anyway

pdoran10 · #5 10-02-2007, 05:48 AM

i think my thought was c/c flop lead turn, and hope some fish come along drawing slim since i figured this villain to cbet this flop 100% given previous play, but I do agree that leading the flop would have been muuuch better.

carrotsnake · #6 10-02-2007, 05:50 AM

INSTA call, it looks like he has j9 I guess, specially if you are making this post, but meh, scrwe him. Not a fan at all of leading flop though, and I don't like lead turn either :/

Fonkey123 · #7 10-02-2007, 05:51 AM

You describe him as a good player, so knowing there's fishies involved in the hand I would expect him to HARDLY ever check back an overpair or set of queens.

The only hand I'm really worried about is pocket tens, but meh if he's really good he'll be value pushing KQ which is enough to make it a call I think.

Fonkey123 · #8 10-02-2007, 05:45 AM

Lead flop, I'd snap call and be pretty happy about it.

Bukem_ · #9 10-02-2007, 06:44 AM

actually seems like easy fold. He is never bluffing with this line, and he is never raising worse for value.

24/20s with 7af dont check this flop with kq.

Warteen · #10 10-02-2007, 08:35 AM

I like a call here. There are a number of 2 pair combos (QT, KQ - I disagree that this player would always bet TPGK into 3 callers) and even a weird 22 in his range, and only J9 and TT are reasonable holdings that beat you. I have to believe a good player would fold AJ on the turn.