$16 - 99 FH

mattiesmat · #1 11-29-2007, 04:29 PM

Do we extract most money this way?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO (t1385)
Button (t1520)
SB (t1440)
BB (t1620)
UTG (t1675)
UTG+1 (t1450)
Hero (t1470)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 3 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t90, Hero raises to t250

vers · #2 11-29-2007, 05:11 PM

I'd probably just flat in position and hope he bets turn and then raise. He'll probably come over the top of you with an ace but other hands he'll fold to your raise I think (flush draws I guess). Also if he's bluffing, you give him another shot to fire.

Jaqrabbit · #3 11-29-2007, 05:17 PM

I think I flat call the 90 and hope for the other two to call as well. I don't think a raise sees a lot of callers, and you want people on a flush draw to come along here. Calling makes the pot 330, which offers the SB & BB 3.5:1, plenty good to chase a flush if either has diamonds (and if SB calls, BB's odds are better still).

Since you're in position, I'd call any bet on the turn, or bet 1/3-1/2 pot if checked to. I could also see checking behind to try and get someone to bluff the river, since you could bet the river if you're checked to again.

DannyOcean_ · #4 11-29-2007, 05:49 PM

Ditto those people. bc i have position, i'm flatting and hoping for overcalls.

Our real value here is the Ax of our opponent. That's pretty much the only hand we stack by the river, and that's going to happen regardless of how we play it. Taking this line gets a little more value out of other pp's, which is why it is superior to raising the flop and driving them out.

ADLinden · #5 11-29-2007, 05:55 PM

I think raising here is really saying we have either and ace or what we have, so just flat, if he bets again there is a good chance he has an ace and we can fist pump.

sence25 · #6 11-29-2007, 06:06 PM

I think it doesn't matter a whole lot.
A) He has an ace and will pay us anyway
B) He doesn't have one and will rarely pay more, if we just call(apart from some rare cases where villain has like 77 and turn is a 7, sth like that)

Just calling looks a thin bit better to give villain the chance to "valuebet" his pocket on the turn, but it shouldn't make that big of a difference.