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Old 11-21-2007, 02:00 AM
drzen drzen is offline
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

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This flop is so dry that vs a LAG I might just call three streets, trying to get stacks in.

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You think that you will call three streets, trying to get stacks in, but you are WA/WB? I can't reconcile those two ideas.

I think we're miles ahead of his range on the flop. He might have caught up on the turn, but letting him have another go at it for free is too generous, particularly since we're stacking off anyway.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

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He leads flop, you raise flop, but you check turn? I dont like this and would bet turn 100% of the time when you guys both have a PSB left

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I think the question here is how to get all the money in when I'm heads-up with a LAG and have TPTK. Do you think he will call my pot-sized push on the turn with something like K4s or K6o?
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

I kinda like your line but you get the same results when you bet the turn, imo.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:55 AM
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I kinda like your line but you get the same results when you bet the turn, imo.

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Meh, I just think my turn check will be seen as "weakness" and will allow a LAG to make mistakes on the river which he wouldn't make have I bet on the turn...
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

5 handed flop?
I like the turn for both pot control and bluffinducing.
TPTK is not the nuts here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

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This flop is so dry that vs a LAG I might just call three streets, trying to get stacks in.

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You think that you will call three streets, trying to get stacks in, but you are WA/WB? I can't reconcile those two ideas.

I think we're miles ahead of his range on the flop. He might have caught up on the turn, but letting him have another go at it for free is too generous, particularly since we're stacking off anyway.

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I guess my point is that betting is generally a bad idea. If I bet here, he definitely calls with his better hands and sometimes folds his weaker hands. With position, though, I can just keep calling and letting him bluff at me with his better and his weaker hands. If the flop went bet-call and the turn was checked to me, I'd bet.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

he might have been trying to trap turn with K8 or K2 unless that is too loose. other wise KQ KJ K10. would he reraise preflop with AK preflop? i prefer the snap call and why ask questions approach myself.
oh and unless you are limping to reraise with AK UTG and backed out why did you limp it UTG?
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:00 PM
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I guess my point is that betting is generally a bad idea. If I bet here, he definitely calls with his better hands and sometimes folds his weaker hands. With position, though, I can just keep calling and letting him bluff at me with his better and his weaker hands. If the flop went bet-call and the turn was checked to me, I'd bet.

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Eh, I've thought about it, and I guess there's a bunch of hands with 5 outs that we'd like to bet against on the turn.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: ($24) AKo played passively PF vs. a LAG. Line check

I think postflop stats/ROI would be a better indicator of LAGginess than preflop. If anything, a true 27/22 would suggest to me that he would fold the flop to your raise with anything you beat. I could be completely wrong, but warning bells are pretty much going off in my head if I have any respect for the opponent at all.
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