may i get tricky on that flop?

TomChan · #1 11-07-2007, 07:28 PM

MP is 19/15, 3,7 af
we are battling pretty much last days, 3betting, calling down light, moves, etc
but hes not wild or crazy, tricky but "normal" action
BB is unknown

i plan to call a flopshove here. is this spew?
on turn, i basically give up

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($719.10)
BB ($600)
Hero ($1022)
MP ($697.60)
CO ($98.60)
Button ($652.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $21, MP calls $21, 2 folds, SB calls $18, 1 fold.

Flop: ($69) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $48, SB folds, Hero raises to $168, MP calls $120.

Turn: ($405) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($405) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $405

TomChan · #2 11-08-2007, 05:29 AM

meh, bump

Nat S. Ivey · #3 11-08-2007, 05:33 AM

wow, c/r is prob the grossest move you could have chose on a flop like this, ESPECIALLY if you were calling a shove

jambon · #4 11-08-2007, 05:33 AM

i think checkraise/calling this flop is big spew without the Qc. just cbet and prob fold to a raise vs a 19/15

TomChan · #5 11-08-2007, 06:50 AM

ok boys.

if you cbet here and getting raised (by either player), you have to fold obv
but villian is not a 19/15 nit, he gets tricky, gets it in light etc

w/ air i often will c/f this flop, he knows that. since SB is not really a station, i think after my check he will bet air 80% or sth.
my c/r then obv looks gross, since it does not really make sense in this spot (esp w/ that SB in the hand), so i can see him even get it in w/ air here, thats why i want to call his shoves

but maybe im even telling you too much, so i stop now