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Old 11-16-2007, 09:52 PM
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peachykeen is doing it, doesn't seem to be working too well for him but i think he's jus trying to learn the game still so he's startin off small. also it seems like both of his accts have been playin at once dk what's up with that

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what 2 accounts?

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Old 11-16-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

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peachykeen is doing it, doesn't seem to be working too well for him

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fwiw in my experience p3achykeen is pretty bad at fullstacked omaha, i would guess he is shorstacking to get a feel for it, but maybe not.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:21 PM
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Those who hate shortstackers don't understand the game.

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wrong
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

"the main mistake people make against shortstackers is calling their bets/raises with hands that are severely dominated and they have no implied odds or bluff opportunites. in omaha fewer hands are severely dominated (especially pre flop)"

Really? I am pretty sure at the mid-high stakes, semi decent players aren't calling a 4bb raise from a guy with 20bbs to set mine.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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"the main mistake people make against shortstackers is calling their bets/raises with hands that are severely dominated and they have no implied odds or bluff opportunites. in omaha fewer hands are severely dominated (especially pre flop)"

Really? I am pretty sure at the mid-high stakes, semi decent players aren't calling a 4bb raise from a guy with 20bbs to set mine.

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its funny when someone makes a cleverly crafted condescending remark like this when they just didn't understand the post they responded to. sorry if i misinterpreted and you weren't being condescending but it sure seemed that way.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

If your not short stacking PLO you are essentially playing flips every time you see a flop... might not be for your whole stack, but a substantial amount since draws are pushed so hard
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:34 PM
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If your not short stacking PLO you are essentially playing flips every time you see a flop

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come on guys.


anyway, enough ripping on people, my own comments on shortstacking plo are that I think it could be very profitable because in high-nosebleed stakes people are more likely to just ignore the shorstacks and see them as just adding money to the pot, and kinda play like the shortstacks don't exist, as opposed to holdem where people adjust to them somewhat better.

Not sure if that came out like how I mean, but I do think that a smart plo shortstacker could make a comparable amount to a smart nlh shortstacker, and possibly much more. However I also think that being a very good plo shortstacker is much more difficult than being a very good nlh shortstacker, but I'm just guessing on all of this.


PS shorstacks please die
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

And yet very good players make long term profit at several bb/100 hands. Short-stacking does not change your flop equity , all it does is make getting it in light on the flop correct more often.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

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Those who hate shortstackers don't understand the game.

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The game is what the game is. It isn't what any prescriptive ruleset says it is, and it certainly isn't what you want and perhaps imagine it to be.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: The NL kids who short stack omaha now

Stats from highstakesdb

01.01.07-11.11.07 | FTP PLO

Losers
Results Session Hands Hours

Dustin Dirksen
$-565.691,00 106 6923 80,57

01.01.07-15.11.07 | FTP PLO

Losers
Results Session Hands Hours

Dustin Dirksen
$-740.422,50 163 9656 118,6


01.01.07-16.11.07 | FTP PLO

Losers
Results Session Hands Hours

Dustin Dirksen
$-892.378,00 183 10738 132,27
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