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Old 11-11-2007, 05:35 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default easy turn shove? 2/4

against aggro 20/18... Notice were deep. I chickened out. My thought process is here, bluff flop, then i call WOOPS. Then turn looks scary and he fire again? and obv shoves river if icall. So good spot to shove turn? I always play like crap when moving up.

Stage #815599293: Holdem No Limit $4 - 2007-11-11 16:22:28 (ET)
Table: KNOB HILL DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - SJAAKIIE ($741.90 in chips)
Seat 4 - ARTYOM4321 ($2225.85 in chips)
Seat 5 - HAMAZRIYA3 ($695.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - JMONET ($87.49 in chips)
Seat 1 - SOUTHCJAY7 ($421 in chips)
Seat 2 - TOMA21031 ($444 in chips)
ARTYOM4321 - Posts small blind $2
HAMAZRIYA3 - Posts big blind $4
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SJAAKIIE [10h 9h]
JMONET - Folds
SOUTHCJAY7 - Folds
TOMA21031 - Folds
SJAAKIIE - Raises $16 to $16
ARTYOM4321 - Calls $14
HAMAZRIYA3 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 6h 7s]
ARTYOM4321 - Checks
SJAAKIIE - Bets $26
ARTYOM4321 - Raises $84 to $84
SJAAKIIE - Calls $58
*** TURN *** [Jh 6h 7s] [Ac]
ARTYOM4321 - Bets $172
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

horrible spot to shove turn. fold x 1000
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

i think calling > shoving. dont fold.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

and why is that? I mean he represents a set here, or AJ, total bluff and lots of draws? he was pretty aggro over the short sample i had him.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

although if he's really bluff happy i like shoving
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

3bet flop for value
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

3-bet flop, as played I fold the turn.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

i'd call...curious what others say though cause i'm not really sure.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

were pretty deep...
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: easy turn shove? 2/4

i dont like 3betting the flop this deep, i like how u played it, call turn.

only benefits to shoving is that it folds out his aggro bluffs that prob have your Thigh beat if he calls you only have 24% equity if his range is something like AJ, 66, 77, and this deep you need a lot of FE almost 50% i think.
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