An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

[runout_mick]

Boomp.

[RichAM]

A+++++++++++++++ Bump

[wslee00]

i usually don't read long posts - but this one was goood

[SwingVelvet]

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Say a player has a VPIP of 40% and a PFR of 20% and they limp in front of you. What sort of holdings do you expect them to have? Well, we know the player is willing to play with 40% of his hands; our sample range for this looked something like "any pair, any ace, any king, any two broadway, any suited connectors 32s+." But we can already refine this range some more: we know that with 20% of those hands, villain would have raised, and here he didn't.

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Since no one mentioned this earlier. Isn't this wrong. Doesn't he mean he raises 20% OF ALL HANDS, and not 20% of just the hands he plays?

Just want make sure. It doesn't change the point he's making but I need to know if I am mistaken.

[gregorio]

Yes, PRF 20% means that of all of the hands you are dealt, you raise 20% of them.

[Pokey]

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Say a player has a VPIP of 40% and a PFR of 20% and they limp in front of you. What sort of holdings do you expect them to have? Well, we know the player is willing to play with 40% of his hands; our sample range for this looked something like "any pair, any ace, any king, any two broadway, any suited connectors 32s+." But we can already refine this range some more: we know that with 20% of those hands, villain would have raised, and here he didn't.

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Since no one mentioned this earlier. Isn't this wrong. Doesn't he mean he raises 20% OF ALL HANDS, and not 20% of just the hands he plays?

Just want make sure. It doesn't change the point he's making but I need to know if I am mistaken.

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You're correct, but it was only bad wording. If you read the very next section it says:

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If we assume that villain raises with his top 20%, our sample range for that looks something like "any pair, any two broadway, any suited ace." So take THOSE hands out of his current range....


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In other words, what I meant was "he's playing 40% of his hands, he's raising 20% of his hands, and he limped here. That means he probably has a hand in the top 40% but NOT the top 20%." I go on to explain roughly what that range looks like.

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Say a player has a VPIP of 40% and a PFR of 20% and they limp in front of you. What sort of holdings do you expect them to have? Well, we know the player is willing to play with 40% of his hands; our sample range for this looked something like "any pair, any ace, any king, any two broadway, any suited connectors 32s+." But we can already refine this range some more: we know that with 20% of those hands, villain would have raised, and here he didn't.

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Since no one mentioned this earlier. Isn't this wrong. Doesn't he mean he raises 20% OF ALL HANDS, and not 20% of just the hands he plays?

Just want make sure. It doesn't change the point he's making but I need to know if I am mistaken.

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You're correct, but it was only bad wording. If you read the very next section it says:

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If we assume that villain raises with his top 20%, our sample range for that looks something like "any pair, any two broadway, any suited ace." So take THOSE hands out of his current range....


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In other words, what I meant was "he's playing 40% of his hands, he's raising 20% of his hands, and he limped here. That means he probably has a hand in the top 40% but NOT the top 20%." I go on to explain roughly what that range looks like.

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Pokey, I've always wondered if you actually read hands like this.

I haven't seen anyone who knows what 28% of hands looks like off the top of their head or knows what a 19/10 might be limping in with by using the difference between the numbers.

[Benny Foldem]

This is the best strategy/make-you-think kind of thread I've read in months! (it could have something to do with the fact that the two main forums I read are NVG and B&M, but nonetheless it's still the best I've read in a while!)

Seriously though, thanks Pokey for posting this, I bookmarked it to read again in the future.

benny

[p4594spa]

Super!

[ClutchCity]

I've only been on 2+2 time for a short time now, but stuff like this is what is making me addicted! Thank you Pokey! This stuff is amazing, just genius. Thank you for this contribution. I am now going to search for everything else you
've ever posted lol