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Old 09-25-2007, 12:07 PM
slowplayj slowplayj is offline
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Default Re: Horrible turn card

I like the turn check because you don't want to get check-raised but now villain knows you don't have an A. Call the river as you're ahead of villain a good % of the time.

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:40 PM
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Guess I am the only one who likes a turn bet here. Maybe I'm coming down with something?

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Are you folding to a c/r or calling down?
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:49 PM
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CD. I guess I am just use to playing my trip hands really fast. I know that turn card does suck but I play this fast till I meet resistance. I'll have to think about this more cause everyone seems to be in favor of the turn check.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:21 PM
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ditto
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:37 PM
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pf whatever.

good turn check.

call river and hope for a chop.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:47 PM
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fold pf

turn check is perfect

now call the river

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Big Bad Babar is spot on as usual.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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Everyone explain the turn check. Not saying it is wrong or right just want some further chat on it cause you all pretty much agree that the T/C was the way to go here. We just playing defense now?
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:50 PM
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I like the turn check because:

1. It is hard to see many hands you beat calling you if you bet.
2. If you bet, a player who "is not afraid to bluff" can check-raise you. Since he is not afraid to bluff, you have to call him down, which I think is bad.
3. If you check the turn, you could induce a bluff on the river.

Basically, I think checking the turn lets you lose the minimum when behind and win the maximum when ahead.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:16 PM
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Thanks Jesse, makes more sense to me now.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Horrible turn card

all the comments on turn check to induce river bluff are standard and make perfect sense; I would normally take this line against default villan.

but OP said villain is loose/aggro, likes to bluff and plays 80% of hands. why not bet the turn precisely to induce that bluff C/R and expected river bet?
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