(216 6-max) So you're thinking about overcalling with JJ...

[Slim Pickens]

payout $780/420
Blinds t30/60

UTG (1,420)
MP (1,560)
CO (1,270)
Button (1,105)
SB (2,645)
Hero (1,000)

Dealt to Hero (BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[/b]Preflop:[/b]<font color="#666666"> 3 folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t210</font>, <font color="red">SB re-raises all-in to t2645</font>, Hero ??? (t940 behind)

Button is a Grade-A moron. I put his range on pretty much any two cards, and I imagine the rest of the table does as well. We've already seen him shove T3s preflop for 20 BB over a limper. SB has been very tight up to this point, showing down only one BB special straight. Normally, this is a very standard fold after SB pushes, but I think SB's re-raising range gets much, much wider given the obvious read on the opening raiser. Does anyone want to tell me I'm overthinking this?

[Pudge714]

I would never fold here. Reads or no reads.

[Slim Pickens]

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I would never fold here. Reads or no reads.

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Really? Never fold? I'm new to this buy-in level and the play seemed much better than what I'm used to seeing. If Button had been a decent TAG player, I would put SB's range on about {AKo,AQs+,TT+} and Button on something fairly wide. JJ kind of sucks too badly against that range to play. Put SB on something a little wider and it swings to a call fairly quickly since the only hands you're adding do very badly against JJ. Right? Is that re-raising range for SB just insanely too tight?

[Pudge714]

I don't know how people play in high buyin 6max SNGs, but in a turbo with everyone having these stacks I wouldn't fold.

I think your range for SB is way too tight. 20bbs effective a guy raises on the button. I'm reshoving fairly wide. If it's against a guy like you described in the OP I'm shoving pretty close to 25% here.

[AMT]

id usually call but i think its reasonably close. im not as confident as pudge that sb is reshoving quite that wide but any inkling that hes shoving looser than the aforementioned AKo,AQs+,TT+ and id put serious weight in calling.

[SuitedSixes]

Do you think you're going to see 88-TT here enough to make it profitable?

I think a fold of JJ here is fine in the 30/60 level. There's still a ton of poker to be played.

[TotalScience]

I like call, T3-boy isnt going to fold right? You would go from shorter stack to a nice chip lead. Its a race to see who can get the donks chips and you cant play weak if you suspect SB is stretching to win that race.