second barrel ?

[frenchpignouf]

Bu 73/24.5/0.89
Sb 53/11.6/0.81

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>.

Final Pot: 4.70 BB


I think I have 6 outs (maybe 9) very often on the turn , and sometimes i'm ahead given the stats of Sb and Bu. Moreover with 2 kings my FE increase.

[Oink]

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Moreover with 2 kings my FE increase.

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I agree

This is a completely standard 2nd barrel for me. And one of the few spots where I 2nd barrel into 2 villains.

[Absolution]

I agree. When the board can have draws or they like to peel flops and then the board pairs on the turn (or gives a scare card), I will bet into 2 (sometimes 3) people. Oink, would you check call the river if something like the 2d came and you had one caller?

[rzk]

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Moreover with 2 kings my FE increase.

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I agree

This is a completely standard 2nd barrel for me. And one of the few spots where I 2nd barrel into 2 villains.

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i'm not sure i understand. why does our FE increase? why is it a good 2nd barrel? isn't it almost certain one of them has a draw or a made hand that they would call the turn with? couldn't be get blown off of a better hand by a semibluff raise? i've always been checking in such situations, am i missing something fundamental?

[waffle]

Second barrel or value bet?

You decide!

[Oink]

They are peeling a lot

When the top card pairs its my clear experience that people start folding a lot more. I dont expectto fold a better hand

I am not necessarily folding to a raise. Depends on the action