Rivered Ace

hedgetop · #1 01-09-2007, 01:53 PM

SB is 65/12/0.8 UTG is 14/12/1.3

Despite being a bit of a trad, the SB cc seems like a lot of strength, epecically with the 7 showing up. This is somewhat countered by the 3rd player who is definetly behind, I think there is a fair chance UTG would call a raise with a weaker A.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB

DrewOnTilt · #2 01-10-2007, 12:28 AM

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SB is 65/12/0.8 UTG is 14/12/1.3

Despite being a bit of a trad, the SB cc seems like a lot of strength, epecically with the 7 showing up. This is somewhat countered by the 3rd player who is definetly behind, I think there is a fair chance UTG would call a raise with a weaker A.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB

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Please explain why you raised the flop. That is a horrible board for your hand. On top of that, UTG has shown no hatred for his hand thus far.

In order to win here,

1) UTG must have a worse Ace or KQ
2) the others in the hand must have not flopped any kind of a pair
3) you must catch up if UTG has 88-QQ
4) you must dodge draws.

Do you really think that any of the above will hold true? I don't. I think that you can peel here given the pot size, but raising is spew.

Call the river, the way you played.

wackjob · #3 01-10-2007, 04:52 AM

drew hit it right on. flop raise is dumb, river call is a must.

goofball · #4 01-10-2007, 08:19 AM

I think raising is better then calling. The pot is huge already, get people to fold and give yourself a shot at checking behind on the turn.

inferno · #5 01-10-2007, 09:41 AM

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I think raising is better then calling. The pot is huge already, get people to fold and give yourself a shot at checking behind on the turn.

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I agree with this

mvoss · #6 01-10-2007, 11:08 AM

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I think raising is better then calling. The pot is huge already, get people to fold and give yourself a shot at checking behind on the turn.

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You are likely behind and people aren't folding anything you'd like them to fold IMO, I think calling is better.

goofball · #7 01-10-2007, 02:13 PM

In a pot this size you'd like them to fold almost anything given your holding.