JJ in 4bet pot

Kimpan · #1 09-18-2007, 05:46 PM

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
CO ($108.04)
BU ($151.46) (52/12/1.12/33) (185h)
SB ($28) (44/18/2.98/22) (114h)
UTG ($111.75)
MP ($100)
Hero ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, BU raises to $3, SB raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $25.50, BU calls $22.50, 1 folds.

Flop: ($58.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $39.50

tubasteve · #2 09-18-2007, 05:49 PM

this is gross. i think i would probably flatcall preflop

l3auble · #3 09-18-2007, 05:49 PM

What do you beat on flop? Nothing that I can see...easy c/f and probably would fold pf

Kimpan · #4 09-18-2007, 05:51 PM

he could have 88-TT, AQ maybe.. don't know. he is fishy.

RAHZero · #5 09-18-2007, 05:52 PM

Gross. Flat call PF. Once button CCs your 4-bet, alarm bells should be going off. C/F the flop.

Kimpan · #6 09-18-2007, 05:53 PM

ok, thanks

Demogorgon · #7 09-18-2007, 05:55 PM

No way we're folding PF vs these two. BU v SB v BB with these numbers I think PF is good but calling is also fine. The flop is hard, C/F might be fine considering his aggr factor over 185h is only ~1. But he's so bad Im not sure if I want to fold here ever. It's high variance but don't fault yourself for getting it in here.
Anyway if he checks behind bet/call any turn I guess.

rberg · #8 09-18-2007, 05:56 PM

i dont mind the way you played it. Maybe this line is better vs. good players because the know about opening ranges on the button and so on.

I expect you take this down on the flop most of the time.

loveinvain · #9 09-18-2007, 06:03 PM

What's the fourth stat in the brackets - 33 for BU and 22 for SB?

I'm torn, flat calling pre is probably fine but your raise is probably fine too considering how fishy they are.

If the button was less fishy I would hear alarm bells after his flat call and C/F flop but seeing how fishy he is makes me think that getting my chips may be good but since betting the flop like you did makes you pot committed, perhaps CRAI is better.

Demogorgon · #10 09-18-2007, 06:05 PM

Fourth is went to showdown.

Yeah actually only way I can see C/Fing as an option vs this player is if it the flop was A high. K high doesnt cut it, c/c or c/rai or c and bet the turn if he checks behind.