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#31
09-07-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
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Nobody has the right to berate other players at the table. No-one. Most people play poker to have fun, less fun means they are less likely to come back. You are just trying to justify your own tilty behavior. [/ QUOTE ] QFT 
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#32
09-07-2007, 02:08 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
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Bottom line, it's poker, not the opera, if someone wants to exercise their right to say what they feel, thats their business. People don't go to a casino in order to follow YOUR verbal demands in order to have YOUR winrate go up. If someone says something and you're not involved, mind your own business and use whatever you hear on either end to your advantage. [/ QUOTE ] If this is really your attitude about behavior in a PUBLIC cardroom, please do us a favor and stay home. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#33
09-07-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
People absolutely have the right to comment on other's play. Can you openly say, IM GOING TO KILL YOU YOU STUPID FISH $$#^%*&%^&$%@#$#@? No. Should you be throwing around curses or words like suck, etc, or making a huge scene and disrupting the game? No. However, you certainly have the right to discuss hands and indicate how you felt about someone's play so long as you are not violating the rules. If venting makes you feel better, go right ahead, thats your business. As for my own tilty behavior, I say things about plenty of routine hands, including those I've won and about my own play. Rarely is it done as a form of tilt or to verbally wash away a bad night.
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#34
09-07-2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
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People absolutely have the right to comment on other's play. [/ QUOTE ] Yes you may have a right to behave like this; but is it really necessary? If you require this type of behavior to "get an edge" on your opponents, then I strongly suggest you play, practice, read, and think about the game more as it will make you a much better player than using "guerilla poker tactics." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#35
09-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
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Bottom line, it's poker, not the opera, if someone wants to exercise their right to say what they feel, thats their business. [/ QUOTE ] And I have the right to say what I feel as well. [ QUOTE ] People don't go to a casino in order to follow YOUR verbal demands in order to have YOUR winrate go up. If someone says something and you're not involved, mind your own business and use whatever you hear on either end to your advantage. [/ QUOTE ] It's only common sense that I do what I can to improve my winrate. If that means making a fish more comfortable (even if it has only a certain percentage chance of working) or irritating someone I want to leave or tilt (even if it has only a certain percentage chance of working), then I'm going to do it.
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#36
09-07-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
These aren't guerrilla poker tactics at all. I surely don't need to "read up" as you suggest in order to counteract some measure of verbal abuse I apply to gain an edge, I have no idea where you got this from, I didn't come within miles of saying this.
It's not, and shouldn't be, a big part of anyone's game. once in awhile, there may be some value to it. Otherwise, it's simply blowing off steam and being able to vent against someone you know you're better than. Is it necessary? No, I'm sure you can do quite fine without it, but if it's something you feel you want to do, then that's your right to do so. As far as the winrate, you have the right to comfort the fish if you want, but don't get involved in other people's conversations about hands you're not involved in, and don't become some sort of moral police advocate against speaking out simply because you fear the 2% chance that the donk in Seat 3 will leave.
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#37
09-07-2007, 03:04 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
You absolutely have the right to be an [censored] if you want to be. The rest of us have the right to point it out that you are, in fact, being an [censored], and that your behavior is socially unacceptable.
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#39
09-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
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But trying to help the bad player justify his play is IMO not a good move most of the time. Frequently the bad player *knows* they are bad, but either doesn't care or just can't help themself. Furthermore they know that you are better than them. They may tolerate the needles of some ass who has to show how smart he is, but once you start patronizing them, you're making it very clear why you're doing it and IMO that is much more likely to drive them away from the table. [/ QUOTE ] Does it hurt much when you talk like this out of your rectum?
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#40
09-07-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: Don\'t tap the Tank -- How do you handle this.
"If someone says something and you're not involved, mind your own business and use whatever you hear on either end to your advantage."
That pretty much make the point that the way to handle a berater and fish depends on the circumstances. Sometimes it's better to fend of the attacker, sometimes it's better to befriend the fish. If I sense that the berater is the type that can't take a bit of his own medicine, then I go after him and get him to tilt. When I find a twit who thinks he can say anything that's on his mind, but no one else has the same right to mock him, then I know I'm in for some fun!
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