Important turn decision

Caddy_4_Life · #1 07-05-2006, 02:48 PM

This is Villain's first hand at the table. Our only read is he could play like a donkey since he posted out of the blinds.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises

Standard so far?
What's your line if he 3-bets?

-Caddy

jba · #2 07-05-2006, 02:49 PM

looks fine.

"What's your line if he 3-bets?"

can't imagine anything but a call down, can you?

Rapidtransit · #3 07-05-2006, 02:50 PM

looks pretty standard to me, given he posted out of the blinds his range could be anything. I think i call bet c/c if ui, and expect some donk hand like kq off 1/2 the time. but what do I know

NSchandler · #4 07-05-2006, 02:53 PM

I don't know how you could play anything differently up to this point.

I/d call down a 3-bet unless a J comes, don't know what else you could do.

Caddy_4_Life · #5 07-05-2006, 03:07 PM

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm still sane.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below: 
CO has Ad Qs (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Ac Kc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: CO wins 10.75 BB. 

Without being results oriented here I may have missed a river value bet/fold. Yes?

-Caddy

duckman · #6 07-05-2006, 03:13 PM

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looks fine.

"What's your line if he 3-bets?"

can't imagine anything but a call down, can you?

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NSchandler · #7 07-05-2006, 03:13 PM

When villain checks that river, it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f.

allaboutmyfetti · #8 07-05-2006, 03:13 PM

I woudl check behind on the river. Without reading the results, it looks he has a pretty strong hand on the turn and got scared with the 3rd flush card or something. Tough on an unknown opponent since there's a chance he could just be a complete idiot.

jba · #9 07-05-2006, 03:14 PM

"it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f"

hmmmmm... rethink that maybe?

NSchandler · #10 07-05-2006, 03:24 PM

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"it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f"

hmmmmm... rethink that maybe?

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Ok, I'm too obtuse to get what you're saying. You're saying the river was a diamond so the flush draw came in? I was thinking maybe something like K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], where villain has flush draw, gutshot, plus a pair.

Maybe this is way too thin of a value-bet, but I don't value-bet enough so I'm looking for spots to put in another bet on the river.