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Old 07-14-2006, 02:56 AM
12ressiMorP 12ressiMorP is offline
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mine are:
a) 1.86
b) 78.76
c) 37.67
d) 27.71
e) 34.88
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Old 07-14-2006, 05:21 AM
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Everybody's W$SD when bet/raised/CR is around 75 to 77. Mine is 74. I've often wondered about this stat, and thought that maybe it was too high. I mean, an argument could be made that something in the 50's is ideal. 51% would probably be too low because you couldn't overcome situations where you were raised.

On the whole, isn't 75% too high, and indicative of the fact that we're not betting/raising for value enough?

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I can't go into too much detail here about why your logic is off, but i think around 77.5 minus a few % points depending on bluffing frequency is ideal based on theory.
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Old 07-14-2006, 07:55 AM
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I mean, an argument could be made that something in the 50's is ideal. 51% would probably be too low because you couldn't overcome situations where you were raised.

On the whole, isn't 75% too high, and indicative of the fact that we're not betting/raising for value enough?

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This is incorrect. I know because I made the same mistake several months ago [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Someone (I think JeffW) politely informed me that the reason this stat isnt in the 50s is that although the MINIMUM probability we need to be ahead when called is 55% or whatever, the AVERAGE probability we are ahead when making correct value bets is the average of every situation. The worst of this family of correct situations are the ones you are thinking of, the 55% type. But the best of this family is when we have the absolute nuts on the river, the 100% type. There are of course many in between.
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Old 07-14-2006, 12:03 PM
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a) river aggression - 2.03
b) W$SD when bet/raised/checkraised river - 76
c) folded to river bet - 42.15
d) W$SD when just called - 31.45
e) went to showdown - 35.7


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Could someone point out what leaks might be associated with these stats? It seems to me I might be folding too much....

Thanks,
Jonah
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:00 PM
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a) river aggression - 2.03
b) W$SD when bet/raised/checkraised river - 76
c) folded to river bet - 42.15
d) W$SD when just called - 31.45
e) went to showdown - 35.7




Could someone point out what leaks might be associated with these stats? It seems to me I might be folding too much....

Thanks,
Jonah

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One could infer that since your fold to a river bet is higher than most, and your W$SD when just called is a bit high too, that you are not calling on the river enough. But, it's hard to say with any degree of certainity with this limited data whether it is a leak or not.
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:17 PM
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a) river aggression: 1.83
b) W$SD when bet/raised/checkraised river: 74.59
c) folded to river bet: 34.34
d) W$SD when just called: 26.76
e) went to showdown: 37.91
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Old 07-14-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: a few interesting river stats

Fold to river bet and W$SD% should be higher at 2/4 and 3/6 due to the lower aggression, right? People will not stab at the pot as much of you check behind on the turn or if they miss their draw, correct?

I have a fold to river bet 44 % and W$SD% 36 % which are both much higher than the average.
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:41 PM
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I was told long ago by a mythical fairy priness that %70 was the magic number for (B)
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: a few interesting river stats

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post your

a) river aggression
b) W$SD when bet/raised/checkraised river
c) folded to river bet
d) W$SD when just called
e) went to showdown



mine are:
a)2.49
b)79.03
c)38.00
d)41.94
e)30.30


I have a modest sample of about 15000hands for the reason that i'm a "new" user of the tracker. Can someone explain me what could be wrong in the way i play the river ? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. My a), d) seem to be higher than, i think, all the stats that i have seen posted here but i don't really understand what it means.

(excuse my english, i keep learning)
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: a few interesting river stats

a) 2.13
b) 68.62
c) 34.05
d) 24.5
e) 39.66
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