200NL JJ

[2orange]

Converter currently down...

Villain is loose passive with an AF of only 1,2.
Whats the best line here and why?

** Game ID 1723166345 starting - 2007-11-17 17:25:24
** New York 02 [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - € Cash Game) Real Money

- sitation sitting in seat 1 with €205.45
- santarian10 sitting in seat 2 with €38.00
- Hero sitting in seat 3 with €213.15
- -Kutuzov- sitting in seat 4 with €131.45
- fredilorbubu sitting in seat 5 with €155.91
- samcollins sitting in seat 6 with €190.65 [Dealer]

sitation posted the small blind - €1.00
santarian10 posted the big blind - €2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Jack of Spades, Jack of Diamonds
Hero raised - €8.00
-Kutuzov- folded
fredilorbubu folded
samcollins folded
sitation called - €8.00
santarian10 called - €8.00

** Dealing the flop: Queen of Diamonds, 9 of Diamonds, 10 of Diamonds
sitation bet - €12.00
santarian10 folded

??

[Moemar]

This is tricky.

I think I just call this flop donk bet. Take a look at the turn card, and also, take a look if he fires a second barrel on the turn. Is that too weak???

What was the turn?

[2orange]

any other comments?

[2orange]

Anyway, here's the turn

** Game ID 1723166345 starting - 2007-11-17 17:25:24
** New York 02 [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - € Cash Game) Real Money

- sitation sitting in seat 1 with €205.45
- santarian10 sitting in seat 2 with €38.00
- Hero sitting in seat 3 with €213.15
- -Kutuzov- sitting in seat 4 with €131.45
- fredilorbubu sitting in seat 5 with €155.91
- samcollins sitting in seat 6 with €190.65 [Dealer]

sitation posted the small blind - €1.00
santarian10 posted the big blind - €2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Jack of Spades, Jack of Diamonds
Hero raised - €8.00
-Kutuzov- folded
fredilorbubu folded
samcollins folded
sitation called - €8.00
santarian10 called - €8.00

** Dealing the flop: Queen of Diamonds, 9 of Diamonds, 10 of Diamonds
sitation bet - €12.00
santarian10 folded
Hero called - €12.00

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Hearts
sitation bet - €48.00

[2orange]

BUMP :/

[AllIn3High]

I probably call again, I can't find a fold w/ that good a draw + hand.

I'd fold to a river bet UI tho (unless it was ridic small), I'd probably also fold a straight / trips to a big bet. There is no way he's tripple barreling a worse hand. If he checks and you improve I'd probably fire a half - 2/3 pot bet.

[JackAll]

Just call flop.
Hmmm... with his low AF I think I fold the turn. But it is wierd that he over-bet it also.