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Old 09-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Feroc Feroc is offline
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Default [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

Reads about SB:
Very fishy, VP$IP about 50. But I did not have too many hands of him recorded.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($69.45)
Hero ($62.15)
SB ($30.25)
BB ($26.40)
UTG ($52.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB calls $4.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12.

River: ($38.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $38.25

Check behind ok on the river?
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:25 PM
GeniusOrCrazy GeniusOrCrazy is offline
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

this is somewhere i need to improve too but i think you need to push here. reckon you are ahead more often than not otherwise i think he either folds or reraises ur turn bet with only around $10 left after calling.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:49 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

He's only got 12 left so I just push. If he had more I'd probably check behind.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

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He's only got 12 left so I just push. If he had more I'd probably check behind.

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I dont get this logic... what does the amount of money he has left have to do with whether or not you bet here? If you think you are ahead of his range, then you bet for value. Or, if you think you are behind but the player may fold a better hand, you may bet.

But betting because he's only got $12 left makes no sense as a rationale.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:53 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

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He's only got 12 left so I just push. If he had more I'd probably check behind.

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I dont get this logic... what does the amount of money he has left have to do with whether or not you bet here? If you think you are ahead of his range, then you bet for value. Or, if you think you are behind but the player may fold a better hand, you may bet.

But betting because he's only got $12 left makes no sense as a rationale.

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He'll call with a wider range cause he's have to call 12 in a 50 pot. Plus the fact that it's impossible for him to raise.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

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He's only got 12 left so I just push. If he had more I'd probably check behind.

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I dont get this logic... what does the amount of money he has left have to do with whether or not you bet here? If you think you are ahead of his range, then you bet for value. Or, if you think you are behind but the player may fold a better hand, you may bet.

But betting because he's only got $12 left makes no sense as a rationale.

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He'll call with a wider range cause he's have to call 12 in a 50 pot. Plus the fact that it's impossible for him to raise.

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But that's not the reason. You don't bet another 24BB if you think you're losing simply because its all that's left. You know what I mean?

If you think he should bet, wouldn't it be because you think you have the best hand here? If the opponent is calling no matter what (likely in this case), then we only bet if we think there's greater then a 50% that we have the best hand here. Otherwise we're just arbitrarily increasing our losses.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:00 PM
argy1182 argy1182 is offline
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

I have also been prone to checking behind on the river and missing a good value bet opportunity. In this case, the board has become rather scary by the end of the hand and you are sitting on top pair with a decent kicker. Either play could be easily rationalized. The important thing is to take note of what your opponent was willing to check/call with throughout the hand and use that information in later play.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:49 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: [NL50 SH] Pussy on the river?

i bet the river. if villain had more behind i'd bet and fold to a c/r from this villain.
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