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Old 04-25-2007, 08:52 AM
snakekilla88 snakekilla88 is offline
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Default Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

Villain is like a 44/22 donkkkkkkk.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed)

Hero ($757.50)
Button ($526.70)
SB ($396)
BB ($281.90)
UTG ($400)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, Button calls $12, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($30) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20.

Turn: ($70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $54</font>, Button calls $54.

River: ($178) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $144</font> or checkraises....

Just seems like alot of two pair hands etc. would bet and maybe call a shove. While if I bet strong they will just call. So is a check more ideal in this spot?
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

i am the donk, please dont CR me
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

Checkraise seems good. He may even bet/call with KQ.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

I think you need a good postflop read in order to make this a profitable play, does he call a cr all day with AQ/twopair?

If I'm not sure I'd just lead.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

"a lot of 2 pair hands"

QJ and.......?

we're going to need a beter read on his postflop play too
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:15 AM
Mingdu Mingdu is offline
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

bet

I'd be sick if it was checked down ... throw something out there and let him hang himself.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

Like jkkkk said, you need a good postflop read. You need to know his tendency to try and steal a pot away from you.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:11 PM
EgoSlasher EgoSlasher is offline
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

You don't have enough information to c/r, just bet
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:09 PM
IHateCats IHateCats is offline
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

All depends on what kind of player he is, if he's aggro enough to try and value bet semi marginal hands like KQ/bluff missed hands here like KJ then absolutely, go for the CR, sure they won't pay you off but you'll still get value vs those hands and you'll get paid off by the 2 pair type hands (QJ, J-10) that you hope he actually has a decent % of the time. I'll be shocked if he won't risk value betting something like Q-10, QJ here with those kind of PT stats if you check it to him.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:17 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Good spot for a river checkraise?....(400nl)

Seems like a pretty clear bet.

He's almost never drawing here, so you're hardly ever inducing a bluff.

He rarely has two pair+, since he hasn't put in a raise anywhere. He's most likely going to fold to a raise with any of his one pair hands, and if he does have a one pair hand, he's most likely going to bet smallish, which you won't.

You could go for a fake blocker, if you think he'll try to squeeze value out of you, and that he might fold a lot of his weak one pair hands to a big bet.
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