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Old 11-18-2007, 04:40 PM
sixsixtie sixsixtie is offline
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Default Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

Villain is 19/11/1.5 over 400 hands
In the last orbit I squeezed these two guys in this exact same situation.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $47.90
CO: $173.40
Button: $65.90
SB: $29.30
Hero: $105.65

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2</font>, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $23</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $21</font>, <font color="#cc0000">

Ok, pretty good flop for me. I know he is going to bet after four betting. So whats my line?Overbet check/raise all in? Smooth call and get it in on a safe turn? What do you think makes the most from this type of player?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

That is a good question!
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

Fold pf as youre not getting odds to set mine and youre more than likely going to have to hit a set to win. Now that you hit your set, shove.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

I'm getting it in now; not waiting for another club to roll off and let it kill my action or make him the nuts. That said fold to the 4-bet PF, you're never ahead and you don't have set odds to call.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

My line would be to call and shove any non club or reraise to 55~~ and shove any turn.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:50 PM
sixsixtie sixsixtie is offline
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

I know its rare but I thought he coudhave been four betting my lightish. IE AK,AQS, even 99 or TT I have played with this guy before and he knows i three bet light. I also had this exact scenario pf like 5 hands ago. i thought he might have been sick of my [censored].
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:52 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

Only a handful of people 3 bet light at the micros, of those, a very very small amount 4 bet light. I wouldnt concern myself with being afraid of people 4 betting me light, just assume they have a hand. If the guy is a complete maniac then its one thing, but it doesnt seem that this guy is. If he knows youre 3 betting light, assuming he even adjusts, he will start to just call you lighter.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

A PSR would be to about $110. You have 85 left.

If he has QQ+ prob calls, esp QcQx.

If he doesn't have a club tons of cards kill your action.

You don't even has a psr left. Just get it in.

You could just call and shove any turn, but I think he gets scared and just folds.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

wow, pf really sux, as You're set mining, You've noticed that? and after You hit Your set, the answer is simple: S H O V E
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Top set in four bet flop on monotone board. 50nl w/ deep stacks

I hate pocked Jacks, seems to also be my most common starting pair, quite annoying.
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