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Old 01-28-2007, 11:55 AM
MajorCP MajorCP is offline
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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Yes. The other guy's an angle-shooting lowlife.

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Old 01-28-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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Three players including myself are in the hand. River card pairs the board but also makes my straight.

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habitual lurker alert...I don't post much but I just noticed something that was a bit off topic on this.

how can a board pairing card make your straight? flush maybe, but not a straight. just being a nit for sure, but the rest of the comments concerning live vs. tournament rules differences seem to cover the OP main question, just not sure how the first part of the set-up works.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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Anyone that asks that a hand that beats theirs be killed so they can win doesn't really need to play in my room.

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This isn't entirely fair Randy. There are apparently enough places run by people who have these silly nitty rules that a player whose primary poker experience is from one of these rooms isn't really acting unreasonably when he tries to have these rules used to his benefit.

Joe Blow plays in his local casino. He exposes his cards early one day and has his hand killed in a big pot. He sees this thing happen all the time in his local room. Now he comes out to play at your room.e's in a big hand and the other player exposes early. Is he really out of line to call for a decision because he thinks the rules are that the hand is dead? Of course he's not out of line (He may get out of line when you make your ruling but that is a different animal).

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Well they need a quick education. I will give them this slack, but I stand by the general premise that if you know the other guy has the best hand but you want the pot awarded to you instead you are at some level shooting an angle.

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How about this then---
The above story happens, and I'm the raiser at the end. I see the other fellow turn up his hand, straight or whatever.

The hand in a cash game is live, I totally agree.

What are the ethics if I ask his hand to be killed, knowing it wont be, insuring a call to my full house?
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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What are the ethics if I ask his hand to be killed, knowing it wont be, insuring a call to my full house?

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Well I wouldn't make a habit of getting floor decisions, but I don't see anything horrible about that. I mean it might be a little unethical to take advantage if he made an honest mistake, but if he turned up his hand trying to find out where he is in the hand there isn't a thing wrong with it.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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River card pairs the board but also makes my straight.

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I think another ruling here may be of more interest.
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:54 AM
kennedml kennedml is offline
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

The hand is live, plain and simple, especially in an isolated instance. However, in a tourney it is standard to incur a penalty as stated above, such as a short suspension from the table
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Old 05-26-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Did I accidently muck my hand?(ruling question)

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I am pretty sure this is a tourney rule. OP didn't say if it was a tourney or a cash game. Where I play, you can play your hand face up in a cash game but intentionally exposing your hand in a tourney gets it killed.

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NONONO the hand should not be killed. Not in a cash game. Not in a tourney. Which doesn't mean there aren't rooms that have a rule stating otherwise.

Steam apparently plays tourneys in a place that doesn't follow TDA rules. Absolutely not, never, no way, in any tourney following TDA rules is a hand killed for being exposed prematurely.
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