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Old 07-27-2007, 03:57 PM
Semtex Semtex is offline
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Default [16s] heads up question

How bad is racing when effective stacks are 5k or more or at 200/400? I keep losing these A-x vs K-Q, Q-J, etc type races and its really pissing me off. Here's a situation heads up against a typical $16 30/10 donk. It was the first hand, does anybody play it different?:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t8260)
Button (t5240)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t8235</font>, Button calls t4815 (All-In).
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

Why can't you just raise it and outplay him after the flop? And if you get outflopped, you can still save a lot of chips and stay ahead or closely behind..
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

i usually push this but i havent had much luck with sngs lately so...
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

You have 20x bb u can see flop.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

How can you go AI preflop with a 8000+ stack and 200-400 blinds? Come on, this is poker, not lotto. You're supposed to be able to play hands also post-flop.
And still, raising 1000-1200ish would have him fold if he has total junk, and call with something you can make him fold with a continuation bet after the flop most of the times.
He isn't in chip-trouble at the moment, blinds aren't too high....If he calls, you're most of the times a dog or a slight favorite....You have the chip lead, you don't want to be in this situation..
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

yeah just make it 1k, it'll do the same thing. when it gets to 3/600, however, you're just gonna push instead of raise.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

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How can you go AI preflop with a 8000+ stack and 200-400 blinds? Come on, this is poker, not lotto. You're supposed to be able to play hands also post-flop.
And still, raising 1000-1200ish would have him fold if he has total junk, and call with something you can make him fold with a continuation bet after the flop most of the times.
He isn't in chip-trouble at the moment, blinds aren't too high....If he calls, you're most of the times a dog or a slight favorite....You have the chip lead, you don't want to be in this situation..

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Please don't post anymore until you understand why this post is garbage... i'll give you a hint-- effective stack size.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: [16s] heads up question

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Why can't you just raise it and outplay him after the flop? And if you get outflopped, you can still save a lot of chips and stay ahead or closely behind..

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Standard raising and bet folding is awful here. This is fine. Most idiots at the $16s aren't limping tricky...it's Q10 type hands that they will then stack off with...get it in ahead IMO.

edit to say that checking and seeing a flop is fine for deception...but if you're looking to raise I think it has to be AI.
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