200NL - AA gets CRAI on turn

pterodactyl_ · #1 05-05-2007, 03:40 PM

Villain was 22/5 over 1k hands. He had been whining about a beat he took about half an hour before and had reloaded recently.

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP1 ($327.50)
MP2 ($400.00)
Hero ($451.50)
CO ($329.00)
Button ($240.00)
SB ($294.00)
BB ($189.00)
UTG ($364.50)
UTG+1 ($223.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 4 folds, UTG calls $17, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($52) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $40, UTG calls $40.

Turn: ($132) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $90, UTG bets $303.5 (All-In), Hero ???

What does he have here and what is my plan?

pterodactyl_ · #2 05-05-2007, 05:40 PM

Anyone? Bueller?

binions · #3 05-05-2007, 06:16 PM

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Villain was 22/5 over 1k hands. He had been whining about a beat he took about half an hour before and had reloaded recently.

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP1 ($327.50)
MP2 ($400.00)
Hero ($451.50)
CO ($329.00)
Button ($240.00)
SB ($294.00)
BB ($189.00)
UTG ($364.50)
UTG+1 ($223.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 4 folds, UTG calls $17, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($52) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $40, UTG calls $40.

Turn: ($132) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $90, UTG bets $303.5 (All-In), Hero ???

What does he have here and what is my plan?

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He could have a lot of things, from a draw to a boat to trip 9s to an overpair.

I don't like your pot control. Consider checking behind on turn, and induce a bluff (or maximize damage control) on the river. If he checks river, make a value bet.

pterodactyl_ · #4 05-05-2007, 06:30 PM

Checking behind the turn (i.e. pot control) is generally for dry boards if I'm not mistaken. I lose a lot of money from a draw by not betting the turn (as well as give him a free chance to outdraw me) and there are a lot of weaker overpairs that may pay off another bet.
Anyone else like checking behind turn?

binions · #5 05-05-2007, 06:34 PM

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Checking behind the turn (i.e. pot control) is generally for dry boards if I'm not mistaken. I lose a lot of money from a draw by not betting the turn (as well as give him a free chance to outdraw me) and there are a lot of weaker overpairs that may pay off another bet.
Anyone else like checking behind turn?

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Heads up out of position against a preflop raiser on a paired board, he doesn't have a draw a majority of the time.
If he doesn't, he is likely to use a scare card to bluff. Give him his scare card and pick it off.

pterodactyl_ · #6 05-05-2007, 06:36 PM

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Checking behind the turn (i.e. pot control) is generally for dry boards if I'm not mistaken. I lose a lot of money from a draw by not betting the turn (as well as give him a free chance to outdraw me) and there are a lot of weaker overpairs that may pay off another bet.
Anyone else like checking behind turn?

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Heads up out of position against a preflop raiser on a paired board, he doesn't have a draw a majoruty of the time.

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I'm not sure I agree with that but it may just be our differing opinions/experience. I'd really like to know what some other posters think about the line/what to do about the push? Apparently this hand isnt interesting enough to warrant any other responses??

EDIT: Also, I'm dumb, this is obviously 400NL not 200NL, ignore the title.

Albert Moulton · #7 05-05-2007, 06:51 PM

I don't think it matters what he has because whatever it is probably beats an overpair. This is the Baluga Theorem in action: c/c flop + c/r turn = big hand.

Unless he tugs his ear everytime he's bluffing and I can see him out the window through my binoculars tugging his ear, then I'd fold.

mark_foley · #8 05-05-2007, 07:41 PM

I don't like checking the turn for pot control here because I doubt the guy peels oop with a draw here and betting gets max value out of a smaller 2 pair. Also the turn is an easy fold imo.

novel20 · #9 05-05-2007, 07:57 PM

Double U Tee Eff is Baluga Theorem?
Don't tell me it is from that dude who thought nut flush + gut shot draw equals 50/50 against a set on the flop. And he still did not understand after the fact as he posted on BBV still saying he lost a big coin flip.

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I don't think it matters what he has because whatever it is probably beats an overpair. This is the Baluga Theorem in action: c/c flop + c/r turn = big hand.

Unless he tugs his ear everytime he's bluffing and I can see him out the window through my binoculars tugging his ear, then I'd fold.

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pterodactyl_ · #10 05-05-2007, 08:12 PM

Baluga theorem is that a raise on the turn means better than a one pair hand.