$400nl: simple top pair type hand against probably bad player:i do bad

snowbank · #1 02-07-2007, 07:46 AM

Simple hand, but I play it poorly. Villan has like $338 in front of him and I've never seen him, so I assume he's a donk. I guess he could have a set here, but I can't really give up on the flop. Do I just fold the turn? Seems kinda weak if I do, but at the same time seems like bad line if I'm calling turn and folding to non-scary river. Sorry for simple hand, just think I misplayed it badly and feel weak just check/folding turn. Anyone bet/fold turn instead?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($338.60)
SB ($412.75)
BB ($668.70)
UTG ($640.60)
MP ($242.50)
Hero ($437)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $15, Button calls $15, 2 folds.

Flop: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $24, Button raises to $48, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($132) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $80, Hero calls $80.

River: ($292) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $195.6 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $487.60

Jay Riall · #2 02-07-2007, 07:51 AM

Queue a long list of people saying 'don't call the turn if you're going to fold a blank river...' Pretty tricky hand to play oop imo. I think bet/folding the turn is ok since we get called by flush-draws, weaker Ts, straight draws etc and hardly ever get raised by a weaker hand.

Parlay Slow · #3 02-07-2007, 08:01 AM

re-raise the flop

snowbank · #4 02-07-2007, 08:02 AM

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Queue a long list of people saying 'don't call the turn if you're going to fold a blank river...'

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Ya, I looked at the hh after and I wondered wtf I was doing. Just seemed so bad.

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Pretty tricky hand to play oop imo. I think bet/folding the turn is ok since we get called by flush-draws, weaker Ts, straight draws etc and hardly ever get raised by a weaker hand.

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Ya, that's where I'm leaning

snowbank · #5 02-07-2007, 08:05 AM

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re-raise the flop

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really? thought a weaker player may be more than happy to get a flush draw all-in here if that was what he had.(if I re-raise flop) And I couldn't call against an unknown there since it's more likely he has a set if he comes over the top. You just re-raising, and folding to a push then?

Jay Riall · #6 02-07-2007, 08:06 AM

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Queue a long list of people saying 'don't call the turn if you're going to fold a blank river...'

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Ya, I looked at the hh after and I wondered wtf I was doing. Just seemed so bad.

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Lol I was implying that that advice was bad. I can't see we are ahead very often atall on the river so I like a fold as played. I can't see many people have the stones to bluff there. I don't think you're line is bad, just maybe not optimal.

Jay Riall · #7 02-07-2007, 08:07 AM

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re-raise the flop

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really? thought a weaker player may be more than happy to get a flush draw all-in here if that was what he had.(if I re-raise flop) And I couldn't call against an unknown there since it's more likely he has a set if he comes over the top. You just re-raising, and folding to a push then?

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Levelled?

Jay Riall · #8 02-07-2007, 08:08 AM

Snow - would you play AT the same as KT here. I think JJ/QQ is definitely in his range here btw, lots of people seem to hate repopping these hands for some reason these days.

Parlay Slow · #9 02-07-2007, 08:12 AM

re-raise the flop and get all in

you have top pair king kicker

Big_Jim · #10 02-07-2007, 08:19 AM

Turn is push or fold.