5/10: puke?

GrandMelon · #1 10-20-2007, 09:38 PM

Villain here is kind of donkish running like 35/10. While he sucks preflop his postflop game isnt as bad as his stats might indicate. Hes been very passive and I havent seen him get this aggro at all so far. Ive been running like 14/12.

Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $490
UTG+2: $1,375.40
MP1: $1,354.20
MP2: $1,654.90
CO: $691
BTN: $1,032
Hero (SB): $1,809
BB: $558
UTG: $985

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, MP1 calls $10, 2 folds, BTN calls $10, Hero raises to $50, BB folds, MP1 calls $40, BTN folds

Flop: ($120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $80, MP1 calls $80

Turn: ($280) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $200, MP1 raises to $1,224.20 and is All-In, Hero?

Effen · #2 10-20-2007, 10:02 PM

Given your statments, it'd be a fold for me. But in the heat of the moment I'd probably call and be very angry.

WCGRider · #3 10-20-2007, 10:04 PM

Not that im really a huge fan, but i am pretty sure you have to call here. This does not seem like a value line on a flush, and he could have 2 pair, lower set, flush/straight draw, who knows. Occasionally he has the flush here but that is the only hand here that is ahead of you (he never has KK here) and even in that scenario you have 20% chance of drawing out.

I think you have to call and its not even that close imo.

iponnet · #4 10-20-2007, 10:17 PM

I fold, donks with those stats love the stupid flush draw... he shows up with Q9h more than enough times here.

BT2 · #5 10-20-2007, 10:48 PM

i would not even consider folding here.

CALL

guaranteedBluff · #6 10-20-2007, 11:00 PM

with 2 limpers i raise more pf, up to $60.

i think lower sets would've raised flop. A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K is unlikely because no raise pf. the only hand he might have that you beat is KJ, and there are many 2 small heart combos possible.

overbet smells like a low flush thats scared of the river. i lean towards a fold, but definitely puke.

blunty31 · #7 10-20-2007, 11:49 PM

Easy call I think, a flush draw just doesnt make sense here, he would repop u on the flop or if he dint he would slow play the turn w a fd i think. This screams alot more more like 33 or 88 or maybe even AhK. I mean his bet is trying to protect a hand not get value from it.

Mike Kelley · #8 10-20-2007, 11:57 PM

Easy fold for me against a villain with those stats and a passive nature.

SemiteStoned · #9 10-21-2007, 12:03 AM

Meh, a 35/10 prolly raises 88 preflop. I think he can show up w/ Ah8x here sometimes as well as 33 or sometimes even K8s. I mean you said he was bad preflop, so hands liek K8s and A8s are definatly in his limp calling range. With that said I call.

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I fold, donks with those stats love the stupid flush draw... he shows up with Q9h more than enough times here.

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Yea, well if we put a really crappy FD like that in his range, then we certainly have to include hands liek K8 and Ah8x.

mce86 · #10 10-21-2007, 12:48 AM

Maybe he only get super aggressive with the nuts!!
Since we havent seen him get aggressive with other hands, we cant assume a pasive player is going to defend a flopped set or two pair in this way. Some players defend their semi strong flush draw because they fear the ace of hearts may be out there.