*** Official joining every $4/180man until I win one ***

[Nate.]

Strife--

Dude, you could have gotten action from me. I totally understand that your goal is to play until you win. Let's just say that I think you're not 100% to do that.

But good luck and all.

--Nate

[Lord_Strife]

Shrug, it was probably incorrect in that spot because I wasn't left with that many chips but I don't see why you guys don't recognize that aces are played significantly differently than any other hand.

And now for whatever reason everyone in this thread thinks I'm a donkey because of my opinion on the KK hand but never bother to consider my skill set or opinions on anything else. Free country, obviously you're entitled to your opinion.

[Lord_Strife]

In 9 right now, positions are as follows:

8/21 TT<AA with 10bbs good for 12th or 13th i forget
14/32
26/54
48/72
78/90
66/100
84/126

as well as two more that just started so we're getting close to the money in the first one i signed up for

[Ontario_Tory]

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8/21 TT<AA with 10bbs good for 12th or 13th i forget


[/ QUOTE ]

I saw this hand, strife - I don't understand why you raised with TT in that position, with that stack. If you were getting called, you were getting 'em in. Why not open push PF?

(not that it would have mattered against aces, I just didn't understand the play).

GL with the quest.

OT

[Lord_Strife]

I was getting the chips in on any flop, I was just giving him another chance to fold something like AK... it's call a stop and go

[Nate.]

Well, it's not quite a stop-and-go, because after all where's the stop?

That said, there's some merit to not pushing pre here; the critical question is whether the action he gains from worse hands that would have folded outweighs the equity he loses the extra times he loses. I don't think that flop FE is a big part of Strife's play here (in practice; I guess it was in his head, though).

If you're trying to drum up some action, I actually think you should consider a limp in that spot. It's amateurish and makes you exploitable; at $4 tournaments it can also be wildly effective.

Good luck,

--Nate

[Lord_Strife]

Hey Nate,
He left out the part where someone reraised me to 4000 after I made it 2000 and i just called instead of putting hte rest in preflop, so i stop and goed to try to get ak to fold or whatever

[Lord_Strife]

Poker Stars, $4 + $0.40 NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 7 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG+1): 18,055
MP: 21,632
CO: 10,162
BTN: 17,356
SB: 28,988
BB: 14,611
UTG: 17,710

Pre-Flop: (2,200) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 3,000</font>, 4 folds, BB calls 2,000

Flop: (7,200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 1,000</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 14,955 and is All-In</font>, BB calls 10,511 and is All-In

Turn: (30,222) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (30,222) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 30,222 Pot
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Fives) and LOST (-14,611 NET)
BB showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight, Three to Seven) and WON 30,222 (+15,611 NET)

[jus_nutz]

that was just gross ... that guy CALLIN with a gutshot ... loled hard when i saw it and felt bad for you ... if you win that hand u chip up massively .... poor boy

[Lord_Strife]

Realistically with two live cards and a gutshot he wouldn't be in THAT terrible shape but I also had a flush draw which killed two of his outs (his 7 was a spade so all of those were live) but it was obviously a terrible call on his part (only getting 2:1) but a little piece of me died inside when he did call