N 82's IP finding for AP situation

[salesbeast]

Dunno if you have seen this latest news from N 82 great detective work though...gg AP...gg you cheating [censored]!

I am making a new thread because this is very important info. I just found something else that I think is huge. This whole thing could run reallllly deep.

Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363) is at the domain"rivieraltd.com" -- that is the domain registered with Domain Discreet.

Idon't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but I pingedrivieraltd.com to get the IP at which it is hosted (going to thewebsite doesn't show anything except the email login). The IP addressis 66.212.244.147.

I then ran a traceroute on 66.212.244.147 tosee where it is hosted. That IP address traces back to"po12.dr4.kdca.mohawk.ca" ... which is obviously connected to Kahnawake.

Simple explanation for those who don't understand:

The guy who was on the same IP as the user 363 had his email set to an email that is hosted by Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

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EDIT, IMPORTANT INFO:

JACKBILEDUCT DISCOVERS LATER IN THIS THREAD THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AP EMAIL, NOT A KAHNAWAKE EMAIL.

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Here's a convo I had with GambleAB. This might clarify things.

(2:05:12 AM) GambleAB: yo
(2:05:46 AM) GIFAFI: yo
(2:06:38 AM) GambleAB: trying to follow the ip stuff
(2:06:40 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:06:45 AM) GambleAB: potripper is playing
(2:06:56 AM) GambleAB: and obv is a dummy account
(2:07:00 AM) GambleAB: set up by user 363
(2:07:08 AM) GambleAB: who has the ability to see the hole cards
(2:07:14 AM) GambleAB: i follow all that
(2:07:18 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow the new thing
(2:07:20 AM) GambleAB: with the 3rd user
(2:07:25 AM) GambleAB: with the ap ip address
(2:07:31 AM) GambleAB: you say hes not at the table?
(2:07:55 AM) GIFAFI: who is the 3rd user?
(2:08:01 AM) GIFAFI: i never said there was a 3rd
(2:08:14 AM) GambleAB: o
(2:08:55 AM) GambleAB: "Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363)"
(2:09:10 AM) GambleAB: isnt that the 3rd guy?
(2:09:32 AM) GIFAFI: no, we don't know that
(2:09:37 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know who potripper is/was
(2:09:42 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow
(2:10:00 AM) GIFAFI: okay... let me explain
(2:10:13 AM) GIFAFI: user 363 opened up table 13, etc, etc
(2:10:46 AM) GIFAFI: he was on an IP with another guy who shows up in the log, but this second guy didn't open up table 13
(2:10:51 AM) GIFAFI: table 13 was potripper's table
(2:11:09 AM) GIFAFI: it's assuming that the first guy (363) was getting the hands for potripper, whoever that was
(2:11:15 AM) GambleAB: right
(2:11:30 AM) GIFAFI: and it turns out that the 2nd guy on the same IP had an AP email as his registered email
(2:11:43 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know if he was logged in as potripper
(2:11:54 AM) GambleAB: ok
(2:11:56 AM) GIFAFI: but it's clear they were all connected somehow
(2:12:03 AM) GambleAB: so theres a log that shows all of the ips that are in teh tournament
(2:12:59 AM) GambleAB: ?
(2:13:32 AM) GIFAFI: there's a log showing anyone who opens or closes a table as an observer
(2:13:35 AM) GIFAFI: but not as a player
(2:13:51 AM) GambleAB: and that was included in the hh that marco got?
(2:14:16 AM) GIFAFI: the rivieraltd/ap email guy opened a table as an observer, although not potrippers
(2:14:21 AM) GIFAFI: yes
(2:14:28 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:14:33 AM) GambleAB: on a scale of 1 to 10
(2:14:43 AM) GambleAB: 1 being you telling on your sister for eating the last cookie
(2:14:52 AM) GambleAB: and 10 being that senator who outed the spy
(2:15:00 AM) GambleAB: how big of a blunder was sending that hh to marco?
(2:15:09 AM) GIFAFI: 9.845

[StepBangin]

Im so confused. Can we get like a major update on this AP stuff?

[salesbeast]

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Are you dumb?? The IP addresses are coming back from with Mohawk reserve which is starting to lead back to AP which is headed from there.

[Vehement]

Conclusive (kind of?) evidence that AP involved involved in the soul-reading from my understanding

[StepBangin]

How did 'we' get access to the players IP addresses?

[StepBangin]

I havent been following this much, thats why I dont know whats going on really.

[Belok]

Trying to make sure I got this straight...

So the suspicion now is that
Some observer account, probably within AP, has the ability to see all users hole cards.
Potripper is either using that account or having someone else use it.
Potrippers account isnt necessarily a "superuser" but this observer account probably is.


This evidence seems pretty damning if I understand it correctly.

[sapol]

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How did 'we' get access to the players IP addresses?

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[Belok]

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How did 'we' get access to the players IP addresses?

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From what I gather, it sounds like AP released some of the master hand histories from Potrippers play, and these histories included IP addresses.

Correct me if i'm wrong OP.

[BrianBigNFun]

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b4 scandal was apparent Crazy Marco requested a HH from AP on the tourney in which he came in 2nd

he received a crazy long xls file that seemed to be gibberish to him.

after scandal blew open and ap denied wrongdoing he sent HH to people on p5 and here to look at- not only did HH have everyone hole cards shown [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] but it also had ip addys of people who observed tables, one observer was at cheaters table the whole time (except 1st two hands in which cheater folded) and he is linked to having the 363rd account which is likely an alpha account at AP