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Old 07-18-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

$300/$150K. Reraiser is MattSuspect.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t2025)
UTG+1 (t2395)
MP1 (t2330)
MP2 (t3570)
MP3 (t2505)
CO (t1055)
Button (t2580)
SB (t3885)
BB (t2155)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t240</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t240, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

Call for set value.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Call for set value.

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Can the cold caller really only have AA? Couldn't he be playing JJ or QQ like this? Maybe he's trying to play for set value. Or he could just be bad.

I would still just call, but not just for set value.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Call for set value.

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Can the cold caller really only have AA? Couldn't he be playing JJ or QQ like this? Or he could just be bad.

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I assume gobbo is sarcastic and thinks this is an obvious push.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Call for set value.

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Can the cold caller really only have AA? Couldn't he be playing JJ or QQ like this? Or he could just be bad.

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I assume gobbo is sarcastic and thinks this is an obvious push.

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I dunno if he was being sarcastic or not, but I think shoving would be bad. I know MattSuspect is good, so think he would fold everything but KK and AA. I dunno about the cold caller, but he would likely fold QQ too.

Call is definitely the best preflop play, and I'd be willing to go broke on a non ace high or queen high flop depending on the action.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

Who is button? Any read?

I think this is like... always a push.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Call for set value.

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Can the cold caller really only have AA? Couldn't he be playing JJ or QQ like this? Or he could just be bad.

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I assume gobbo is sarcastic and thinks this is an obvious push.

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I dunno if he was being sarcastic or not, but I think shoving would be bad. I know MattSuspect is good, so think he would fold everything but KK and AA. I dunno about the cold caller, but he would likely fold QQ too.

Call is definitely the best preflop play, and I'd be willing to go broke on a non ace high or queen high flop depending on the action.

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People fold QQ like ever? Seriously? I'm prolly shipping it, though i'll have to look at stack sizes again.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Who is button? Any read?

I think this is like... always a push.

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But if we shove, wtf are they going to call with besides AA? A shove by us would look extremely strong. A read on button would definitely help.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I think Matt Suspect's range here is (or should be) KK+. Call for set value.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: KK raise UTG, reraised and called.

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Who is button? Any read?

I think this is like... always a push.

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But if we shove, wtf are they going to call with besides AA? A shove by us would look extremely strong. A read on button would definitely help.

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What about making it 800 and shoving the flop?
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