Tilt 30r TT OOP

[Bakes]

ZJ i just think your wrong here, people won't call with A9 on this turn, and they even have to think about folding draws.

[ZJ123]

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You dont have to give him credit for thinking. Even a lvl 1 thinker is like, [censored] jack paired, i have A9/88 probably not good. Nothing indicates he's a calling station.

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So your only betting turn with J+? That doesnt seem right, lotsssssssss of randoms call turn with A 9 here anddddd draws.

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I'm pretty much only betting the turn with a J and air.

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but bakes said no one double barrels that card.

Thats the point, people do. I check here a lot, and i think its incorrect, cause im like zomg i have QQ here, and its too good to fold if c/r (but its not).

[Bakes]

I didn't really mean "no one double barrels that card", i more meant no random unknown is going to think that someone is double barreling.

[Butcho22]

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I would check/call turn and see what river brings. If it went check/check and river blanks, I'd bet.

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If you're going to bet a blank river you think we're good on the turn, right?

Based on that logic, why not bet here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I don't get this question. You're completely misunderstanding his logic. His decision to bet river comes only after he sees Villain check behind on the turn. This is kind of a critical piece of information that isn't available during the turn decision.

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So we give him a free card to catch up, with hopes of getting value out of 88/x9 on the river if it's a blank? (Not too many blanks really)

If we check this turn I'd expect to see a bet that's a bluff about ~10% of the time here. Is this way off?

[Bond18]

Good discussion here, my thoughts are as follows:

I think a check on the turn is best.

If villain checks my plans are:
A. Check call a river thats a low diamond.
B. Check fold to a river thats Kd/Qd since that hits almost every draw.
C. Bet a non diamond rag for value.
D. Unsure what to do with Ad.

If villain bets i plan to call turn and fold to a large river bet that isn't a J/T.

[markysals11]

i like to check/call the turn in this spot and check again on a safe river and hope he slows down... and as djk said earlier if he checks behind on turn and a safe one comes on the river you bet for value