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**Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
There are many posters in both forums who are interested in getting a coach. And there are many posters in these forums who have been coached on their road to NL excellence. Because 2p2 doesn't allow coaches to publicly seek out students, we need a place for students to find out about certain coaches.
This thread is for players who have been coached to post reviews of their coaching experience. This thread will be heavily moderated. Here is what will be allowed... Students: We want to hear from you. And we need you so we can start up a discussion of coaching. Please let us know how your coaching experience went. Please include as much info as possible. Try to include: 1. Who was your coach? 2. What did he charge? 3. How many lessons did you receive? 4. How did the lessons work and what tools did your coach use? (skype, hh review, sweating, etc.) 5. Comment on your experience with this coach. (what you liked, didn't like) 6. Would you recommend this coach to a fellow 2p2'er? 7. General comments you'd like to share. COACHES: Don't just pop in here and post about your coaching services. Posts like that will be deleted. You are only allowed to respond to a student's review if your name was mentioned. 1. Quote the post where you are mentioned. 2. Correct any factual errors 3. Correct any info that is no longer current (rate is different now, now use skype, etc) 4. General comments in response to the student's review. Others/Spectators/Potential Students: Go ahead and ask questions of the people who post reviews. Detailed inquiries with any coaches who find this thread should probably take place via pm. So students, please help your fellow 2p2'ers with as much detail as possible about your coaching experience. Be honest and be respectful if your experience was negative. And again, this thread will be heavily moderated and it will be shut down if coaches don't follow the rules or if it gets off track. |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
***let's try to keep things on track as long as possible**
--aj |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
I got coaching from BobboFitos.
He charged $100/hour but that was soon increased to $125/hour and eventually $150/hour (I believe he currently charges $200/hour due to an increase in demand). I recieved 14 lessons, all on different aspects of the game (flop/turn/river play, equity, headsup, bet sizing, headsup, etc). We used AIM and the lessons usually took an hour. He would go through an explanation on the days lesson and spend time discussing a hand or two of mine. I was also able to send him HHs via pm to get his opinion. I enjoyed Bobbo's structure. It was definitely different than coaches I've had in the past, where sweating was used via AIM or skype. He focused more on theoretical aspects instead of just straight sweating. Sometimes our schedules were a bit off and we wouldn't be able to do sessions within a few weeks, but overall it was a good experience. I would recommend him to other 2p2ers. I think that he helped me alot in developing a more positionally aware PF game (and unit me a little bit :P). |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
ive had orange coach me...
he charged 50 an hour which i thought and still think is a steal. we did sweats over aim. prolly like 10 in all. and then i was allowed to send him infinate many hands any time basically and we would talk about those for free. again a sick deal obv i would highly recomend him. he is chilled out and knows his stuff. great for fundamental play abc tag poker and getting a good fundamental for beating 100 and 200nl for a nice solid clip. imo prolly one of the best all around deals u could find. |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
basically ditto to everything Orange said about BobboFitos. I'm in the middle of of his course, and he has helped me tremendously. He def goes about coaching in a different manner - there are no sweat sessions involved, rather you do a series of ~ 1 hour AIM discussions on a variety of subjects (aggression, pf play, balance etc...). It helped me understand WHY we want to take certain actions rather than just learning what to do in a given spot.
I have also done sweat sessions with Maulik in the past...he is def very solid and his rates are a very good value IMO (I think he is at $80/hr). |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
i had orange coach me for $50/hr, which is a great deal.
i second everything kaz said, he's a great coach and the 50/hr is a steal. he sweated me over aim/skype and i could send him hands at anytime which he gave me his input on. i would definitely recommend him because he knows his stuff and is very good at teaching it to you. his only knock is that hes a florida fan (auburn fan here), but hes accepted the fact that auburn owns them. |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
WiltOnTilt - $200/hour
Been with him for a month now, getting 4 hours/week. So far we've done sweat sessions using skype and teamviewer, but he'll do anything you want (i should probably look into doing a HH review). One thing I learnt about coaches is that alot of them do it for the money, and you need to try and find that rare coach who genuinely cares about his students - wilt is definitely one of these coaches. Examples of this are: - has a forum where students post hands then him (and on occasion jsnipes) make very good responses to them - extra time - homework excerises where we discuss hands he has played (we get an insight into higher stake games) - very flexible scheduling like he says on his blog 'My goal is to be the best low-mid stakes NL coach out there for the price.' The thing I like most about him is that he'll go above and beyond what's expected from him to see his students succeed. He also does an excellent job at explaining and teaching concepts. I definitely recommend him. |
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
I just had my first coaching session with 0evg0, and I think it went very well. He charged $175 for a session which went for two hours, which I think is very reasonable. We tried to get a sweat session going over Unyte, but there were technical difficulties, so he sweated me over AIM instead. I'd say we spent about 90 minutes with him sweating me, taking notes, and making comments about some of the hands I was playing, plus about a good half hour afterwards going over specific hands and also a lot of theory. He had a lot of very insightful things to say about hand reading/bluffing/beating up on fish that will definitely improve my game in the future. I'd recommend him to any SSNL player who's looking to move beyond the fundamentals of poker and really work on optimizing their play.
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
I'm partway through the Bobbo programme at the moment. I've gone from a breakeven .5/1 player to a winning 5/10-10/20 player since i started taking his lessons. He can definitely take a decent amount of credit for that. He's very very good at what he does, i really like the fact that he has lesson plans, and teaches what he think is important. This is way more successful [ime] than the coach relying on the student to pick the topic for that lesson. He probably won't fix individual leaks, but he teaches you what you need to know to go about identifying and fixing your own leaks and reworking your game.
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Re: **Official uNL/SSNL Coaching Thread**
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I've gone from a breakeven .5/1 player to a winning 5/10-10/20 player since i started taking his lessons. [/ QUOTE ] How many lessons over what sort of time period was that? |
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