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Old 04-19-2007, 04:21 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

No real reads on villain. How did I play this hand? Should I put in a raise somewhere? Should I have called the river as the hand went down?

EverestPoker Game #1416304689: Table Suva-4 - $1.00/$2.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:28:05 - 2007/04/19
Seat 1: Schollator ($362.00)
Seat 2: anus80 ($128.30)
Seat 3: HERO ($216.95)
Seat 4: ganotec ($266.00)
Seat 5: tototototof ($229.57)
Seat 6: Lordi ($187.03)
ganotec posts the small blind of $1.00
tototototof posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Lordi calls $2.00
Schollator folds
anus80 folds
HERO raises to $9.00
ganotec calls $8.00
tototototof calls $7.00
Lordi calls $7.00
*** FLOP *** [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
ganotec checks
tototototof bets $20.00
Lordi folds
HERO calls $20.00
ganotec folds
*** TURN *** [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
tototototof bets $40.00
HERO calls $40.00
*** RIVER *** [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
tototototof bets $156.00
HERO folds
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:28 PM
MyQuil MyQuil is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

I reraise the flop to about $50. If he comes over the top then you know you've got to fold it. I think the most likely holding he's got is another overpair, which unfortunately after the turn and river you're only beating if it's Q Q.

He's obviously got a hand, but yours may well be the best on the flop, so you've got to bet out and define it. Definitely right to fold the river how it was played though.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

Yeah, it seems fine to put in a little raise on the flop and take some control in the hand.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:02 PM
Jugador Jugador is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

Definitely have to figure out where you are in this hand at some point, and the flop is the best place to do it.

Although its likely he outdrew your big pair, he could have had similar action with a 56s double-gutter, missing his draw and forcing you out since you played your hand so passively.

All 3 hands you posted have no reads, did you hit 3 tough situations the second you sat down at the tables? Or have you not been paying that much attention to the opponents?
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

raising flop to 50-60 and then folding to a raise seems the best solution to me.
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Old 04-21-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

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Definitely have to figure out where you are in this hand at some point, and the flop is the best place to do it.

Although its likely he outdrew your big pair, he could have had similar action with a 56s double-gutter, missing his draw and forcing you out since you played your hand so passively.

All 3 hands you posted have no reads, did you hit 3 tough situations the second you sat down at the tables? Or have you not been paying that much attention to the opponents?

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Well, to bee honest I'm playing 8 tables and sometimes (quite often unfortunately) I'm not paying sufficient attention to my opponents. But I'm trying to improve. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-21-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK facing donkbets!

uhh...stop playin too many tables....raise flop or turn if u wanna get tricky...but raise somewhere....river fold is ohhhkay...but uve def under-reppd ur hand....
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